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What is the tavern used for? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Druidic1 (talkcontribs) 06:03, 23 April 2008 (MST). Please sign your posts.

The Tavern is our local chat room. --Green Dragon 13:05, 1 May 2008 (MDT)

Tavern Event[edit]

I would like to first start off by saying that I haven't been able to contribute to the site much because of school. I'll try to add some feats or races when I get the chance.

I was wondering if you or possibly another admin could "standardize" a tavern day. The idea would be like twice a month, everyone that can, gets together at the tavern and talks. The admins could address any changes to the site and we'd more or less do what we did the day that guy was nominated for adminship.

I figure a day or two every month is a cool thing to look forward to and many people would show up. It could really make the tavern a cooler and more fun place.

Send me a message on what you think about this idea. If you need any help on implementing it (or any help at all) I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for taking the time to read this otherwise crappy request. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Okreya (talkcontribs) 22:31, 26 April 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts.

Hello Okreya. I'd imagine this is no longer a problem, right? The Tavern seems quite crowded these days... However, if you still are interested in this idea I think Summerscythe was or is trying to organize a "Friday Night Tavern" event. --Green Dragon 07:56, 3 October 2008 (MDT)


How do i leave massages for other users? --Stalking-Ranger, April 27, 2008 C.E.

Ooooh! I could use a massage. It's been a rough week.
If you want to refer a user to a specific message in a page, there's a link at the bottom of the "edit" pages that says "MoI a user about this change." Click on the link, enter the user's name and optional section. —Sledged (talk) 17:14, 27 April 2008 (MDT)
Additionally, of course, you can always use the method you just used. --Green Dragon 13:04, 1 May 2008 (MDT)

Frank and K's Work[edit]

Okay, I've got some stuff to put it. It isn't my own creation, but I will give credit and it's open-source by the writers' own admission. It's a series of article which detail things which don't really work as written in the standard DnD rules. The articles deal with, in this order:

Necromancy (Tome of Necromancy), Fiendishness/Evil (Tome of Fiends) , Races, social structure, dungeons, and other things (Dungeonomicon), Combat-based classes and feats (Races of War)

Frank and K's work can be a little out there, but they'll make you think.

The difficulty, though, arises from the Tomes having such a broad range. Each one includes classes people would actually care about, flavor material, and analysis of how things work.

Since you're in charge, I feel I wouldn't want to put a foot wrong here, so I'll wait for your decision about where these go or even if they should go up. Here's the links. They're best read in order. Tome of Necromancy, Tome of Fiends, Dungeonomicon, Races of War. --Genowhirl 12:16, 1 May 2008 (MDT)

If they have been formally published the correct way to add them would be to create a publication entry which outlines the ToC of the book as well as the material present within the aforementioned book. If they have not been formally published the correct way to add them would be to create a outline of the book in Other and then link to the PrC's, Spells, ect that are present in the book from that page. Either way the new content the book brings into D&D should be added to it's specific area. For example new PrC's should be added to DnD Classes. New spells to Complex Special Ability Components, etc etc. Hope this helps. --Green Dragon 13:02, 1 May 2008 (MDT)
I got the Tome of Necromancy up. It would have been easier had I not had to learn wiki formatting as I went. I'll eventually work on formatting the classes with actual ability tables and everything, but that'll take plenty of referencing back to the SRD and the like.Genowhirl 16:32, 1 May 2008 (MDT)
Looks good! Thanks for adding those! --Green Dragon 07:58, 3 October 2008 (MDT)

WotC Media[edit]

Are we allowed to use certain images from WOTC products on this wiki? An example would be an image from the monster manuals that WOTC has put in several galleries on the internet. Noname 21:01, 2 May 2008 (MDT)

I believe all their images are copyrighted and therefore cannot be uploaded. I may be very wrong though. --Green Dragon 21:40, 3 May 2008 (MDT)
I checked and it appears that you are right. I can simply post links to WOTC's pictures (like wikipedia does) without actually including any content on the D&D wiki itself. Noname 22:36, 3 May 2008 (MDT)
Thanks for checking, and glad to know about their image policy for certain. --Green Dragon 00:53, 11 May 2008 (MDT)

Character Record Sheets[edit]

Since these are distributable, would it be appropriate for the wiki to maintain a list of links to various character record sheets? such as The Only Sheet, Heroforge, and the like? --Ganre 21:53, 3 May 2008 (MDT)

A good place for links to different character sheets would be at links. Unfortunately it is locked to non-admin edts, so you would have to start a discussion on it's talk page. Hope this helps. --Green Dragon 22:02, 3 May 2008 (MDT)

Special:Random Page[edit]

Can you make a random page link in the navigation tab? --Sabre070 01:42, 4 May 2008 (MDT)

This really should be discussed on Talk:Main Page. Thanks. --Green Dragon 11:00, 5 May 2008 (MDT)

My Discussion[edit]

HI! I'm not really mad that my discussion got deleted, i kinda thought it just might. I was just wondering for future reference what can and shouldn't be put into the discussion board, so that doesn't happen again. So just let me know please, thank you, so much, and also, i think the community you've created is a very fine and respectable community, and I'm very glad I'm a part of it. Summerscythe 13:24, 4 May 2008 (MDT)

I deleted it because I felt it more tried to advertise your creations rather than prompt a discussion about maneuverability. I can restore the discussion if you are so inclined, or you could re-write it so it is more geared towards a discussion about physics and maneuverability in D&D. Either way works for me. Also, I really should have used Template:Delete rather than just delete it. Sorry about that. --Green Dragon 13:53, 4 May 2008 (MDT)
Oh, ok, I see how it could have been seen that way, I apologize. I meant for it to be an example, but reading it I see your point completely. I'll reword it. Thank you for the explanation.Summerscythe 08:57, 5 May 2008 (MDT)
No problem, and the new discussion looks better. Thanks. --Green Dragon 00:52, 11 May 2008 (MDT)

Monk Performance Skills[edit]

I wasn't sure if there was a way to include these, but some of my players were complaining that rogues getting major benefits out of skill tricks was kind of unfair in the other players eyes. Granted, yes everyone can use skill tricks if you meet the prereq's, but a monk player made a good point to me. Why not give them something with skill tricks, but play it off differently. Well I thought, what would increase a monks skill, but at the same time be fair and compatible for gameplay. So I threw around the ideas for a performance skill to hone their abilities with fighting styles. Thus I made a bunch of performance skills, (Monk Performance Skills being at the top of the list), making it to where they could only choose one though so they didn't become too overpowered. Not only could they use these performance skills to show off at exhibitions and monastaries, but it would also increase there abilities to some extent just by taking ranks in it. However, I told them they could choose only one because of the substantial benefits they give. They are like skill tricks to a certain extent, but then again its more limited and the decision they make at first level is the one their stuck with. I'm not sure, but I hope that there is a way I can include these in a category of their own. I'm not too great with computers, but I'd love to incorporate this on D&D Wiki in a section much like the Monk Fighting Styles (but hopefully on their own to avoid confusion). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Taedom (talkcontribs) 09:32, 5 May 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts.

Okay. I would start by making a variant rule explaining monk performance skills. Once that is done I would be more than willing to either add a new section to character options or to split the current monk fighting styles into multiple sections. Let me know which you would prefer. --Green Dragon 00:23, 6 May 2008 (MDT)

Reverting Edits[edit]

For got to MoI you about reverting IP changes. --Sabre070 00:17, 6 May 2008 (MDT)

It is fine, there is no need to notify me of undoing malicious edits. --Green Dragon 00:52, 11 May 2008 (MDT)

Product Identity Question[edit]

I'm inputting my Setting into the Wiki, but there is one thing I wanted to check before I actually input it. One of my towns is named after one of the D&D deities and the deities temple is a major part of that town. Can I still input this town into the Wiki? --Falconknight06 13:20, 7 May 2008 (MDT)

Yes. --Sam Kay 03:52, 10 May 2008 (MDT)
You are allowed to use the names of product identity things in different contexts, so yes, you can add that city here to D&D Wiki. --Green Dragon 13:00, 9 August 2008 (MDT)

Picture Upload[edit]

Is it just me, or is the picture upload not working, I keep timing out. -- Eiji 23:54, 9 May 2008 (MDT)

Seems to work for me... --Green Dragon 00:51, 11 May 2008 (MDT)
Whatever it was, it seems to have cleared up over the last few days. I have no idea why it was only me. Oh well. On a side note, the entire site keeps going down for long periods of time (and this time it doesn't seem to be just me). Any idea what is going on? -- Eiji 16:41, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
I've noticed it as well. However, it started after he left (see below), so I don't think it's Green Dragon. Maybe Blue Dragon would know? I added a comment on his page asking about it. — OptimizationFanatic (talk) (contrib) 17:15, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
The site keeps going down because the router is in an unstable condition. A new router is currently being invested in, and sorry about the inconvenience. --Green Dragon 21:03, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the information! — OptimizationFanatic (talk) (contrib) 21:39, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
Is the router on the fritz again? I find I am mostly unable to edit, well, ANYTHING except for the very rare, unexplained burst where it slips through, and creating pages from scratch. Presumably, once/if this posts, I won't be able to edit it again. It just loads and loads and times out. (EDIT: And look, here it works right here, but Cheerleader or Mortician....) -- Eiji 07:32, 10 June 2008 (MDT)
Is this still a problem? --Green Dragon 08:02, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
Randomly so. For example right now, I'm fine. Then suddenly, it doesn't. I haven't had issues recently so here's hoping. -- Eiji 20:59, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
Good luck ;). If it's still a serious problem, please feel free to email Blue Dragon, I am sure he can help you a lot more then I can. --Green Dragon 10:32, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

Going Away[edit]

I will be going away for the next few days to attend a swift water rescue rafting class. If anyone has some spare time please feel free to look over edits and undo malicious ones. Have a great time! --Green Dragon 13:12, 11 May 2008 (MDT)

Enjoy the class! --Aarnott 13:35, 11 May 2008 (MDT)
Back. --Green Dragon 21:02, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
Welcome back! — OptimizationFanatic (talk) (contrib) 21:38, 15 May 2008 (MDT)
Thanks. I've been rafting on and off occasionally, so I may not be available for some periods of time... Let me know if anything major comes up please. --Green Dragon 21:22, 24 May 2008 (MDT)

Wiki Formatting Addons for MS Word?[edit]

I've noticed the formatting in wiki doesn't exactly just port too and from my text applications (I'm not surprised at all)

Do you know any thing i could use to make it a little quite to do formatting? (the preloads help but) i was thinking more along the lines of how easy it is to code HTML style pages in MS word (for me at least)

Till a tool is made or revealed to me I'll be fine.. just.. bored with the tasks.

Anyway, thanks.
--SDK_Exile 13:05, 18 May 2008 (MDT)

I'm just going to say that MS Word cannot do HTML or Wiki code properly. It's made for printing. I would recommend Notepad++ for such things. — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (MDT)

Help on uploading[edit]

I am a new D&D Wiki user, DM, and player. How do I upload an image from my computer onto my page (maps, photos, etc.)? TYVM --Palantini 23:49, 19 May 2008 (MDT)

Hello Palantini, and welcome to the Wiki! To upload a file, press the link Upload file in the toolbox. You will need to log in again at the Media part of the website. Let me know if you have any other troubles! — Blue Dragon (talk) 10:50, 24 May 2008 (MDT)

CS Formatting[edit]

Sorry to disturb you, but I am new with wikis, computer code, and D&D. I have posted my campaign location, Simiran, along with many races, monsters, etc. However, as I have learned more about D&D Wiki, I have noticed many things wrong with my setup, and though I have tried to fix them, I am not sure whether I have rectified them correctly or not, and do not wish to proceed incorrectly. Could you please look at my pages and sort them out, or at least message me how? It would be greatly appreciated, and I am sincerely sorry if it takes some time. Thanks, --Palantini 20:39, 21 May 2008 (MDT)

If you give me a link to the Main CS Page I would be more than willing to help format the CS. The link you gave me now redirects to a supplement page and the breadcrumb is the templated CS breadcrumb. --Green Dragon 08:18, 3 October 2008 (MDT)

SRD Link Problems[edit]

Hi, newbie here...

In the SRD:Reading Creature Entries page, there are two incorrectly wiki-formatted lines: {{SRD:Armor [[SRD:Class|Class]] (Creature Statistic)}} {{SRD:Base Attack/[[SRD:Grapple|Grapple]] (Creature Statistic)}}

These should probably read: {{SRD:Armor Class (Creature Statistic)}} {{SRD:Base Attack/Grapple (Creature Statistic)}}

They look like the victim of a "search and replace" gone wild. ^_^. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neoculture (talkcontribs) 19:50, 23 May 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts.

Got it. --Calidore Chase 21:07, 23 May 2008 (MDT)
That would be the victim of a auto-link adding bot. If you find any more things like that please let me know. Thanks for letting me know about that! --Green Dragon 21:34, 24 May 2008 (MDT)

Friday Nights at the Tavern[edit]

Check out the Tavern calendar, we'll remove it if you don't approve, I just figured the tavern is an awesome place and we want to try to get people into it. I'd love your opinion, thanks.Summerscythe 16:11, 29 May 2008 (MDT)

Seems fine to me, and hope it works out. --Green Dragon 08:00, 3 October 2008 (MDT)

A Request for Permission[edit]

Hello there. I was wondering if I might be allowed to post the effects of faerzress as detailed on page 48 of the Underdark supplement, as one of my recent contributions is a prestige class that relys on said rules.

Thank you for your time.--Risek 13:16, 2 June 2008 (MDT)

Go to the beginning of the book and check for OGL information. If it states that none of it is OGL, you are not allowed to post it as per copyright law. — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 19:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)
Ah ok--Risek 16:10, 10 June 2008 (MDT)
Although you can reference the book on D&D Wiki, e.g. CW, pg. 43. --Green Dragon 13:06, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

April Fools Only During April?[edit]

Thank you for the welcome letter. I do want to ask a quick question. I saw a few funny/joke kind of entries. Can I try my hand at making some of those or would it be best to wait for the next April first to roll around? I ask because... I find that I actually used one or two of the "joke" entires. Dra 06:16, 4 June 2008 (MDT) Dracina

Please feel free to add your joke entries at any time! The "April Fools" category is not just for creations posted in April. Also, I agree. Some of the "joke" entries can add an interesting spin into a campaign. --Green Dragon 20:20, 7 June 2008 (MDT)

Adult Content[edit]

I was wondering what (If any) are the rules for posting mature content. -Risek 20:19, 5 June 2008 (MDT)

Just make sure to add Template:Adult Theme and made sure it's not too raunchy. --Green Dragon 20:14, 7 June 2008 (MDT)
Ok Thanks.--Risek 16:09, 10 June 2008 (MDT)
No problem, glad to help. --Green Dragon 20:22, 22 June 2008 (MDT)

DnD or D&D?[edit]

When typing in computer code I have noticed that both DnD and D&D work when referring to which section-is this true to everything?Palantini 19:31, 8 June 2008 (MDT)

If you are referring to the identifier "DnD" is preferred. Thanks! --Green Dragon 13:04, 6 July 2008 (MDT)


all of the armor pages are supposed to link to the pages for magical and psionic armor enhancements. instead, they all link to Magical/psionic WEAPON enhancements. i cant fix cause all the pages are edit blocked, or i would. i put a note on the armor page, but no one noticed. Zau 08:31, 10 June 2008 (MDT)

Please link to the pages with the specific problem. Thanks --Calidore Chase 19:45, 10 June 2008 (MDT)
That was an issue in the template. I already fixed that. --Dmilewski 04:40, 23 June 2008 (MDT)
Thanks for doing that. --Green Dragon 13:04, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

Moving a Page[edit]

I have made a character and put it on a page that I named "charachter sheet". Stupid me didn't think that that page wouldn't be a sub page of my page. So can you move it to "User:Sabre070/Kodiak" or is there a way I can do that? Thanks. --Sabre070 06:35, 16 June 2008 (MDT)

Can you provide a link to the page? All you have to do is click the move tab at the top of the article and put User:Sabre070/Kodiak as the new location. I can do it for you if you provide a link, but you can do it yourself if you like :). --Aarnott 07:46, 16 June 2008 (MDT)
Looks like you got it, and thanks for doing that. --Green Dragon 20:29, 22 June 2008 (MDT)

Editing Problem[edit]

Hey could you possibly take a look at user:Eiji? He can't edit anything. -Risek 20:28, 22 June 2008 (MDT)

Better now? --Green Dragon 21:39, 22 June 2008 (MDT)
Aye, I can edit now, but only small things. If I try to edit an entire page, or anything over a certain length, it seems to choke up and forget what it was doing. Seems like another problem unrelated to the first, I'm not sure. (EDIT: Well maybe not. This just went through trying to edit the whole page. Did you do something?) -- Eiji 16:40, 6 July 2008 (MDT)
Better now? I think it may be your computer, maybe your browser's cache is full, or something. Who knows. --Green Dragon 11:09, 30 September 2008 (MDT)

LD Divine Variant System Template[edit]

Im making a variant for the Core divine system, would you mind if I do a new deity template for the next deity who will use this variant (Including Mine). With all grace --Lord Dhazriel 17:05, 24 June 2008 (MDT)

Making a new template would be fine. I would just call it something like "Deity (VARIANTNAME Supplement)" and I would not use the template namespace, since I feel that that should be kept clean for use of main D&D templates. Let me know what you decide. --Green Dragon 13:01, 6 July 2008 (MDT)
Im making a new template, the name is Variant Divine System, we can also call it LD Divine Variant System. I work on this.--Lord Dhazriel 16:58, 6 July 2008 (MDT)
Did you end up making the template? What's the name of it? --Green Dragon 08:23, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
Yes I did, no name yet since it copy paste right now. It more on a beta stage right now, I will create the actual template. --Lord Dhazriel 13:39, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
Sounds good. --Green Dragon 10:30, 6 October 2008 (MDT)

Attacks of Opportunity Question[edit]

I'm slightly confused with the process of attacks of opportunity involving moving from one threatened square of an opponent to another.

For example, if an enemy is wielding a spiked chain, therefore threatening a 10ft radius, if a player were to enter the 10ft radius I realize that this does not provoke an attack of opportunity. However, if you were to move another 5ft in the same turn towards the opponent, would this provoke an attack of opportunity from moving from one threatened square to another threatened square? also, if you were also to move still inside that 10ft radius of threatened squares, even if it's not towards the opponent does this also provoke an attack of opportunity? enlightenment would be appreciated. --Ehsteve 23:31, 24 June 2008 (MDT)

I believe you are right on all counts. It is the movement out of a threatened square that provokes the attack of oportunity. So in your example the player moved out of the one square that is threatened and into another square they are provoking an attack of opportunity. In fact the attacker could continue to take an attack of opportunity for each square moved out of by the player, as long as the attacker is capable of taking multiple attacks of opportunity. --Calidore Chase 13:15, 3 October 2008 (MDT)

Moving Pages[edit]

Oh.. Thanks for telling me.. I never saw that before, I'm pretty sure I've asked a few times. Don't worry.. I'm an idiot.. lol --Sabre070 02:07, 1 July 2008 (MDT)

No problem! It seems like a lot of people never see it, you're not the only one to miss it :), so no worries. --Green Dragon 13:02, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

Leveling Questions[edit]

Hi there,

Thanks for the welcome! Since you so kindly provided me a link with which to ask a question, I thought it only polite to oblige you ;)

I think I spotted a mistake in a listed character build (Protected Casting) but mentioned it on the talk page of the article rather than edit it because I'm unsure on one point that I hope you might be able to clear up for me. When levelling up, in what order is it done? The reason I ask is that the mentioned build uses Sorc4/Fighter1 and then takes the PrC Spellsword at level 6. However, Spellsword requires a BAB of +4 or greater, and Sorc4/Fighter1 gives only +3. The reason I ask for the order of levelling is that if feats, BAB, etc is added first, then you could say the character qualifies to take Spellsword at level 6 as it gives +1 BAB. In my groups however we've always picked class FIRST, and things like a prerequisite BAB bonus had to be filled before taking said class. Is this the conventional wisdom?

Ordinarily I'd just assume the author of the build made a mistake, but I know of one other build (Dagger Specialist) that had a similar mistake whereby the builder took a prerequisite feat upon gaining the first level of the PrC. I already edited that one before I register mentioning that I thought you had to take feats before picking the class, but I thought it best to check that it IS convention before going ahead and doing it again!

Once again thanks for the welcome and your time, and I hope my small contributions can be of some benefit over the coming millenia - Neonin 12:15, 1 July 2008 (MDT)

You are right. The class is picked first, and the abilities gained by the class come afterwards. --Aarnott 15:33, 1 July 2008 (MDT)
Ahh, I thought as much. What about feats gained for levelling? Do they apply before or after you take a class? --Neonin 04:40, 2 July 2008 (MDT)
Not sure where it is in the rules, but, I always make my players choose a class first and then they get to go through all the leveling up rigormorale... So no choosing a prereq feat at the same level as taking the class that needs the prereq feat. --Calidore Chase 13:09, 3 October 2008 (MDT)

D&D Wiki Magazine[edit]

Discussion:D&D WIki Magazine. Your thoughts? ShadowyFigure 11:30, 8 July 2008 (MDT)

Where would it be published? Or were you thinking it would just be available for download here on D&D Wiki? --Green Dragon 08:10, 3 October 2008 (MD
That was the idea, say as a PDF. ShadowyFigure 16:39, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
It sounds like a great idea! How often would a new magazine come out? Also, I'll respond on the discussion soon. --Green Dragon 10:28, 6 October 2008 (MDT)
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