Talk:Dinosaurs (5e Creature)

Psittacosaurus

Can someone try to get the ceratopsian race thing working for the taco, I messed around with trying to get it to appear in the ceratopsian category, but so far that isn't working-ToastyBoi 11/11/2021

Fictional Dinosaurs?

I say there should probably be a separate section on the page for stuff like the Cold One and Mokele. Could use that to include things like Ark creatures too. Sound good? --SwankyPants (talk) 07:47, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

Not a bad idea. It would definitely keep from confusing people who don't know what those are. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 10:39, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

Another Wacky Idea

Here’s a quick idea, what if we separate the real dinosaurs a little more? Split it into certain types, like by Sauropods/Theropods/The Other Ones, or by similar creatures. Since all of them are fairly close in CR(90% are between 1/4 and 10), that would be kinda counterproductive, but if they were categorized by similar dudes, like all the raptors being stuck together, you wouldn’t need to fumble through all the creatures looking for something “like X but different in some way”. Could also sort it by CR within those categories too, so if you want something stronger than X, just go down a few.

Just spitballing an idea. Could easily go without it. --SwankyPants (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2021 (MDT)

I like this idea. Just organize it a little more. I think by type (Sauropod, theropod, etc.) would be the best way to do it. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2021 (MDT)

Glad to see you agree. Personally, I think it would look nice if it had formatting similar to Miscellaneous Creatures, or how the Hyrule setting handles it. Looking at how they handle it, I reckon we’d probably need to make a few extra categories to pull that off, though. Might be unnecessary. Thoughts? --SwankyPants (talk) 12:14, 23 April 2021 (MDT)

I actually kinda like that idea. Having a little table, only instead of creature type (since they’re all beasts) we could have the type be what sort of dinosaur they are. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 14:46, 23 April 2021 (MDT)

I’m a bit busy right now, but later today I’ll screw around in the sandbox, I think. Check if I could pull off some nonsense with subtypes, instead of making categories. --SwankyPants (talk) 12:52, 23 April 2021 (MDT)

Alright, after a test with the titano and chubito, it seems to work out. Should we go forward with this? --SwankyPants (talk) 10:55, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Excellent. Although these two should be sauropods, but that's easily fixed I imagine. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 20:45, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

And that’s my second problem, I guess. Genuinely have no idea what to tag most of these dudes with. I’ll see if I can google a bit harder, next time. --SwankyPants (talk) 19:09, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

As a dinosaur nerd, I'll be happy to assist. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 21:20, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Sounds good. I’ll start on that now, if I screw up just tell me. Or fix it. --SwankyPants (talk) 19:23, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Cool. If you want, we could get more specific with the groupings. Do you want to separate different related groups (Raptors and Tyrannosaurs are both theropods for example) or do you want to just include wider groups? Cause I think the former would be helpful for Theropods and "herbivorous dinosaurs" (ceratopsids, hadrosaurs, etc), but I think we can just umbrella group sauropods. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 21:26, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Probably a better idea for wider groups, especially for more specific types. Probably not to the point of separating rex-likes, but keeping things like trikes and parasaurs apart. Makes enough sense to me. --SwankyPants (talk) 19:38, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

That's fair. The only theropods I think should be separated are raptors, since they're pretty distinct from other theropods, but we could get away with not separating them. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 21:41, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Eh, they’re probably similar enough. You might need to do a bit more digging to find raptors, but they’re all generally smaller, and thus have lower CRs, so they’re a bit easier to differentiate. A lot of the point of separation is finding things easier, and if you can find them easily enough, it might not be an issue. Up to you, since you seem to be doing all the tagging. --SwankyPants (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Honestly, it's fine. We'll just put them alongside other theropods. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 22:03, 25 April 2021 (MDT)

Differentiating

As it stands, a lot of the statblocks for dinosaurs in the same categories are hardly, if at all differentiated. I can understand the point behind this as there isn't large differences between most, but should we at least try to differentiate these almost duplicate pages?

I tried to do some of this already with the tapejara, tupandactylus, and hatzegopteryx, but mostly because those ones were kinda easy. Doing these for the Ornithopods and such might be hard. --SwankyPants (talk) 11:17, 20 September 2021 (MDT)

I meant to get around to that, like some dinosaurs and creatures could have unique abilities, like echolocation for one hadrosaur or something like that- ToastyBoi 11/1/2021

High CR

Why are the argentinosaurus, titanosaurus, and amphecealious statblocks so powerful? Now I get they should be more powerful than t rex which has 8 CR, but I wouldn't put them at the same level as a tarrasque which is supposed to be a legendary destroyer. I don't even think they should go above 20 CR. --MythicActions2000 (talk) 15:27, 15 October 2021 (MDT)

I agree but I also did not make them. --Dinomaster337 (talk) 9:42, 16 October 2021 (MDT)

Do you know who did? Which dinos did you make? I apologize if I spelled one of the dinosaurs' names wrong. --MythicActions2000 (talk) 13:12, 16 October 2021 (MDT)

Aptonoth, Brachiosaurus, Dimetrodon, Diplodocus, Gallimimus, Gorgonopsid, Ground Hawk, Mokele Mbembe, Mosasaurus, Pachycephalosaurus, Parasaurolophus, Plateosaurus, Quetzalcoatlus, Ropen, Therizinosaurus, and Torvosaurus --Dinomaster337 (talk) 17:13, 16 October 2021 (MDT)

I think the mokele mbembe is very interesting and well made. Good job! What exactly is a gorgonopsid? --MythicActions2000 (talk) 15:44, 16 October 2021 (MDT)

A type of mammal-like reptile, most of which were top predator at the end of the Permian. check them out here --Dinomaster337 (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2021 (MDT)

I think that the Titanosaurus should be close as I based it off of the one found in Ark Survival Evolved, which kind of acts like a herbivorous tarrasque in that game- LeToastyBoi 11/11/2021