Talk:Shayde the Devastator (5e Creature)

I created this guy to be the most powerful creature ever. --Gdd4270 (talk) 05:13, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

This seems like the generic BBEG people make, honestly (lichy, evil, sucks life, etc.). Characters with only official rules cannot beat whatever a CR99 is. Even mythics don't go this crazy and are at least unique.--Yanied (talk) 11:47, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

This isn't the exact BBEG actually. It has differences. --Gdd4270 (talk) 03:50, 31 October 2021 (MDT)

Why this stat block has a delete template.

This creature can be destroyed. Just use Characters Beyond 20th level (5e Variant Rule). --Gdd4270 (talk) 06:24, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

20th level spells, ability scores above 5e's actual hard cap of 30, and there's nothing in the linked page.--Lavie (talk) 07:06, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

I'm still working on the page, and a level 60 character could succeed on a DC 50 save, only needing about a 14 to about an 18 usually. --Gdd4270 (talk) 07:30, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

Again, there's nothing on the page you linked to. Finish that first. --Lavie (talk) 07:34, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

I did. I am not finished. --Gdd4270 (talk) 07:38, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

Also i did say that it is still being worked on by me. --Gdd4270 (talk) 07:39, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

I removed the delete template because I really hated why that delete template was up there, I mean, if Shayde is unusable in some campaigns, then don't use him! It's not beyond your abilities! P.S: He CAN be used in some campaigns, so don't deprive other people of his coolness. --Disidiot101 (talk) 13:51, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

The goal of this wiki is to have content useable with first party content. This is not at all, and the supplement for it is nowhere close to completion.--Lavie (talk) 13:57, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

I agree that this page is not usable in all campaigns, but it is usable in some. --Gdd4270 (talk) 13:59, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

The idea of the wiki is make content that is able to be generalized. IF this is not the case, that is what disclaimers are for. HOWEVER, there is a limit to how many ridiculously powerful BBEG pages can be made before each and every one starts to look like "only made for my table/games' power levels." And that is when user pages are needed. This would be one of those cases, in my opinion.--Yanied (talk) 15:07, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

Let it stand

I am intrigued by that creature, and since it is apparently still being developed, it would not be fitting to delete it. --JJ von J (talk) 14:37, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

It's already way too overpowered beyond anything within first party content, and just keeps getting buffed. The justification for it isn't even done itself. So no, it should be deleted unless the beyond level 20 supplement is done or this gets nerfed to fit within 5e standards. --Lavie (talk) 14:39, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

I already said, I am working on the page and have added a little bit to it recently. Also, I think it would be better to use abandoned or requestreview. --Gdd4270 (talk) 14:41, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

Neither of those fit. Stop working on this and actually work on your beyond level 20 supplement if you are serious about your justification.--Lavie (talk) 14:42, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

The user JJ von J was created on 16:32, 29 October 2021, and their single post on 16:43 is this. They were also welcomed by Gdd4270. For future reference, sockpuppeting is heavily discouraged. Don't do it again. --SwankyPants (talk) 15:04, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

Ok --Gdd4270 (talk) 14:53, 30 October 2021 (MDT)

What does BBEG mean. I have part of a plan for the justification page, just give me a few weeks. --Gdd4270 (talk) 14:56, 30 October 2021 (MDT)

Big Bad Evil Guy. Like the main boss I guess.--Yanied (talk) 15:03, 30 October 2021 (MDT)

Shayde as a god.

I am working on this creature as a god. I still think that this page should exist, but I am also still adding to the deity. --Gdd4270 (talk) 16:30, 1 November 2021 (MDT)

For the deletion purpose, please consider the issue 'in progress of being addressed'. --Gdd4270 (talk) 15:00, 6 November 2021 (MDT)

There are More Powerful Creatures than this

Literally, there are. See 'CR99', 'CR400', and 'CR1000'. Honestly. --Gdd4270 (talk) 16:45, 6 November 2021 (MDT)

Yeah, we're in the process of finding and slapping a delete on those too :3 I see you've done one so that's good. The CR1000 thing is made by a user who is known for making overpowered content that we are trying to tamp down.--Yanied (talk) 19:24, 6 November 2021 (MDT)

I get that. Please do not delete Firewave, as it is a WIP. What do you mean, one that is good? --Gdd4270 (talk) 02:46, 7 November 2021 (MST)

Solely a page for the other variant rule

If you take out the categories and stick it there only, it becomes much less visible at least. Not that I'm for loading more overpowered drek on the wiki, but it is something I thought about as an alternative to deletion.--Yanied (talk) 13:33, 7 November 2021 (MST)

What about the {{delete}} template? --Gdd4270 (talk) 15:06, 8 November 2021 (MST)

We've discussed and it seems to be ok if it's not on the usual lines of search. So I removed the tag.--Yanied (talk) 15:19, 8 November 2021 (MST)

Why is it still in the "!" category? --Gdd4270 (talk) 16:02, 8 November 2021 (MST)

Because its WIP.--Yanied (talk) 18:46, 8 November 2021 (MST)

Can i still finish it without it being deleted; even though it will be buffed up more? --Gdd4270 (talk) 16:15, 8 November 2021 (MST)

Since it is now removed from people finding it normally and is only a subpage for a rule that isn't normal, I think you can finish it. Just be sure it's ACTUALLY finished or it will be stubbed--Yanied (talk) 18:46, 8 November 2021 (MST)

About to get a big buff... --Gdd4270 (talk) 15:41, 14 November 2021 (MST)

Doing a lot of stuff on this; finishing it so it fits my needs. --Gdd4270 (talk) 06:07, 21 November 2021 (MST)

Categories

I noticed that User:Blobby383b added some categories to this. That was helpful, but I don't think that any more categories really fit. --Gdd4270 (talk) 17:25, 26 November 2021 (MST)

I added in something to the CR 50+ variant rule so that the high ability scores make sense. --Gdd4270 (talk) 04:23, 27 November 2021 (MST)