Talk:Epic Boon Design (5e Guideline)

Class Prerequisites

Seeing as this might become contentious in the future, I wish to completely do away with the "no class prereqs" in this guide. Not allowing these in any form only limits what people can make, and even if the DMG doesn't do it, we've ignored plenty of precedents from the core books before, and come up with things before WotC has too.

I'm yet to see an actual argument against this besides "because precedent". --SwankyPants (talk) 08:11, 7 December 2021 (MST)

No official boon is limited to a single class. One is limited to 3 classes (Sorcerer, warlock, and wizard). Most official boons are useable by multiple classes. --Lavie (talk) 08:12, 7 December 2021 (MST)

So your argument is "because precedent". Why did we allow Large races? Why did we allow weapons to have the Heavy property without the Two Handed property? Why have we allowed a dozen other things except to spite precedent? It's pointless, and only gets in the way of further creativity. --SwankyPants (talk) 08:16, 7 December 2021 (MST)

I think boons were designed to be more open and applicable or something, from the name. From the DMG it's an "applicable-to-all-heroes" deal. Coming from 4e though, I don't mind class restricted anythings in this case. I will admit it makes them sound a bit more like feats than boons in that case (not that class-feats have precedent in 5e either :P).--Yanied (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2021 (MST)

I consider prerequisites for boons and blessings and such to strictly not do anything -- after all, one can only gain them if the DM decides to grant them -- however, I think they are still useful information to have, because they help inform a DM's decision on whether or not a boon or blessing is appropriate to give to a character. A "Boon of Resurrection Expertise" for example would not make sense to give to a character that doesn't already know the resurrection spell, and indeed would not make sense to give to anyone except a cleric or a bard. Endermage77 (talk) 16:53, 9 December 2021 (MST)

Alright, after further deliberation here and on the discord server, I am going to remove the clause specifically preventing class-based boons. --SwankyPants (talk) 09:23, 12 December 2021 (MST)

Epic boons should NOT have class prereqs, honestly... --Gdd4270 (talk) 09:34, 12 December 2021 (MST)