Talk:Pirate (5e Class)

On the whole this class is quite flavourful with a good mix of features.

• Dueling Ace. Please mechanically define "turns their attention away from you". If a creature with multiattack attacks both you and another creature, does that count? How about a perception check? A disengage away from you?
• Fencing Adept. A +1 AC bonus against one enemy is reasonable. +2 AC is a significant bonus. This features gives you +6 AC at 6th level. +10 at 13th. This is absurd.
• Slippery as an Eel. A minor thing, possibly just the way it is described: "lessening the impact." What if this was psychic damage, or some other attack that has no "impact"? Is this as intended?
• Eagle Eyes. "Perception rolls to find enemies. " How would you know if it's an enemy or not until you spot it?
• Certain Death. I might need to compare this with the damage output of other classes, and this is pending the conditions for "turns their attention away", but +30 damage (and with two attacks... potentially +60) damage seems pretty high.
• Belay That! Semantic quibble, a creature isn't a target until it's already been, well, targeted by an attack or feature: so "when a creature within 30 feet..."
• Explosives Expert. I'm wondering if a limit should be placed here. If I spend 1 week of downtime in a village, spending 8 hours a day, I can spend 560 gold to create approximately 300 bombs (given a Charisma of 16). Distributing these amongst the party means making short work of the next 10 encounters or so.
• Cheap Shot. Please consider limiting this to beasts and humanoids. Would not work against beholders, hydras, ettins, gargantuan creatures who's eyes are 40 feet above you, etc. Rather than making a list of conditions or exceptions, its easier to limit the creature type.
• Poison Savant, Explosives Master: same criticism as Explosives Expert if I can repeat this every hour/2 hours.
• Death from above. High jump? Long jump? Maybe this should read "drop down adjacent to a creature from a height of at least 5 feet"?
• Disabling blow. Please limit this to humanoids and beasts, as these locations will not make sense for most monsters (beholders, black puddings, skeletons, etc) Marasmusine (talk) 06:39, 3 February 2016 (MST)

CL of TierArea (talk) 18:50, 25 April 2016 (MDT) Aye hold ye tong ye land lubben warf rat!!! Heres what I be thinkin!...Ye need more knowledge on yer piratin terms. Yer brain is a swiss as the sails after a storm! What about the SPOT, ye cant be fergettin about the SPOT! Be ye a real pirate? Nay deck hand!...Makes me cringe like stale rum on me mothers breast! Now ye be givin me yer remainin gold fer havin to trot throw this swill!

How do you think this is now? I think that this page is coming along very nicely, and maybe even it is even good enough to be nominated for FA. Of course this needs a description. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:16, 2 June 2016 (MDT)

The chart states that there is an Extra attack (2) for 10th level, but this is no mention of it anywhete else. FlapjackSofa (talk) 1:17, 30 August 2016

This class has been nerfed into the ground in the last few months for no reason. Class is thematically good, but mechanically sub-par by level 4. Cross classing becomes necessary, but the class seems to be built to keep this from happening. Absolutely no support abilities even though pirates always have a crew. This class doesn't know what it wants to be or what role it's there to fill. Major revisions incoming, reasons will be given. Kolchak (talk) 17:24 9 September 2016

You step away for a few months and brigands abscond with all your hard earned class changes. They add things that make no bleeding sense, like glaives as a pirate class weapon, and two level 3 abilities for cunning pirates. Far too much has been changed with no reason given, nerfs, buffs, psychic damage. Revisions incoming, rebalancing very necessary. If you can't hold your rum, get out of the tavern. Kolchak (talk) 5 June 2017

Pirate Garb

This feature adds a new armor to the game that is mechanically identical to studded leather armor and then requires it be worn in order to get a huge benefit. To remove the redundant armor, and to widen options, I strongly suggest changing the requirement to "must not be wearing medium or heavy armor" (maybe also excluding shields). —Proton^[talk] 05:04, 24 October 2016 (MDT)

My dude, what does pirate garb do? it's no longer in the equipment section --Bigdad881 (talk) 09:43, 29 January 2018 (MST)

As said by Proton, it is identical to studded leather armor.--24.103.152.138 09:59, 29 January 2018 (MST)

Quality Article Nominee

— This article became a quality article! Yanied (talk) 12:48, 29 October 2021 (MDT)

While I am not the creator of this class, I would like to personally nominate Pirate as a Featured Article. A player used it in my sea-based campaign and both of us loved it. It adds its own unique style to the game in combat and role playing. Enough is left for versatility and preferences for different Dungeon Masters. I do not see any reason to not include it. -- DevonTheTaylor (talk) 04:56 PM, 17 September 2020 (MST)

Support. I’ve played as this class and I love it. The playstyle is similar to Rogue, but different enough to be new and exciting. --- Shadow Walker (talk) 11:50 PM, 19 October 2020 (MST)

Support. It's a well made class, and deserves to be recognized for it's unique play style. --Green Dragon (talk) 12:59, 19 October 2020 (MDT)

Comment. I really like the mechanics of this class, and the theme was explored enough to be unique. However, i think that this class needs more fluff and lore added to earn the "featured" tag. With lore increased both in the core class and subclasses, and the completion of the "Creating a..." section, i would give this class my support. Anastacio (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2020 (MDT)

Do you think a quality article would be more appropriate for now? --DevonTheTaylor (talk) 04:37 PM, 2 November 2020 (PST)

In the current state, it's perfect for a quality article, in my opinion. Anastacio (talk) 14:34, 6 November 2020 (MST)

Support. I support the nomination of this class as a quality article. Is well written, nice mechanics and clearly has a lot of work put on it. Anastacio (talk) 17:08, 6 November 2020 (MST)

Support. You have my cutlass BatmANNA (talk) 4:51 PM, 2 November 2020 (PST)

Support. And my blunderbuss -- EvilPotatoChips (talk) 3:37 PM, 6 November 2020 (CST)

Support. Who'll drink a toast with me, I give you liberty, This town is ours - tonight -Pirates Emerson Lake and Palmer Leíf (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2021 (MDT)

Dialet of Sea

Maybe this class could have something like Thieves' Cant or Druidic, something like Pirate Jargon (5e Feat) or similar as unique dialet/leanguage