Talk:Hylian (5e Race)

i have a question i am trying to make a link based character; what variant would i use by any chance or is he one unto himself?--Lord Survival (talk) 14:46, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

It depends on which Link you're trying to emulate, but generally you would use either the normal hylian traits, or the Royal Bloodline traits. The Link featured in Breath of the Wild would use the Fringe-Dweller traits, though. - Guy (talk) 21:50, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Hylian language?

Wouldn't it make more sense for the Common language to be replaced with Hylian? Abelhawk (talk) 16:32, 1 October 2018 (MDT)

In the setting for which this race is designed, it's implied that Common and Hylian are the same language. - Guy 20:34, 28 April 2019 (MDT)

Chosen by the gods

This trait just straight up doesn’t make sense. We never ever see Link miraculously hit because of his connections to the goddesses. The only physical difference between humans and Hylians is the ears, which brings me to my point. It’s a not well known piece of trivia that the reason why hylians have ears is they were the ones to first hear the goddesses with their ears and they recorded the language, adopting the religion of the goddesses. I would personally just give them the ability to speak the Hylian equivalent of Celestial (Ancient). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PickleJarPete (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.

• The reason hylians aren't exactly like D&D 5e humans is mostly because, well, in my opinion, 5e humans are underpowered. Vanilla human is often considered the worst race for optimization. Getting a +1 to all ability scores is not that useful for most characters. (By contrast, the "variant human" which gets a free feat as 1st level is laughably overpowered.) I tried to keep the +1 to all ability scores plus a little extra so they could have a power level more comparable to the other races in the Hyrule setting, without being as broken as "1st-level-feat" humans.
• It's a funny coincidence you bring up Link as an example. He is the main inspiration for the mechanical benefit of Chosen by the Gods. Maybe we don't "see Link miraculously hit because of his connections to the goddesses," but almost everything Link does he does ridiculously well. This random kid with no training takes down demons and giants like it's nothing, everyone likes him despite the fact he never talks, he can endlessly backflip while carrying dozens of pounds of gear, etc. Imagine Chosen by the Gods as a subtle effect that a hylian doesn't consciously register, and it suits Link perfectly. It's closer to a "+1 to everything" than it is to you seem to be implying.

If anything, Chosen by the Gods doesn't fit right with hylians who aren't Link. Some of the more recent games (BotW, SS) have implied Hylia subtly guides or blesses hylians, which ties that together, but honestly it's not as tight of a knot as I would prefer.

• Even in ALttP, which is where that "piece of trivia" originates, there is an ancient language Link needs the Book of Mudora to translate. This language is the closest thing to "Ancient" in that game, and in that game it's clearly not something all hylians speak. (In other games where an Ancient language appears more prominently, e.g. The Wind Waker, it's similarly implied Link doesn't understand it. This wouldn't make sense as something all hylians know.) The Sheikah variant traits already have Ancient, too, and I'd say it makes much more sense for them.

- Guy 20:34, 28 April 2019 (MDT)