Talk:5e Mounts and Vehicles

Vehicle Ability Scores

Howdy, all. While making the Better Mounts, Vehicles, and Ships (5e Variant Rule) variant rule, I realized that not a single rule exists in 5e that states that vehicles do not have ability scores. However, in both Descent into Avernus's vehicle rules and Ghosts of Saltmarsh and Unearthed Arcana's ship rules, and less impactfully the above variant rule, vehicles do have ability scores. While this is an easy mistake to make given the lack of area in the template, it is a rule that we must follow for these items to be playable. While I will not be in a place to make such sweeping edits for a few hours due to irl responsibilities, I would love to not be the only one making such changes. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:21, 4 February 2021 (MST)

It has been awhile, but I have added the option to add ability scores to mounts and vehicles. Animal mounts should have all their ability scores while vehicles/ships should have str/dex/con. Either way, the boar can serve as an example for how to go about adding ability scores to these mounts and vehicles.--Blobby383b (talk) 12:52, 21 July 2021 (MDT)

Busted ! Section

While checking over this page, I was surprised there weren't any ! vehicles. Turns out, there are, they just aren't listed here. Upon closer inspection, the following appears to be the problem.

|category=Vehicle |category=Equipment |category=Mount |category=Drawn Vehicle

This means that only pages with all four categories show up, when all stubbed vehicle pages have at least 1 of these removed. After dinking around with the dpl on a personal workspace, it would appear replacing the above line with the following would fix the issue:

|category=Vehicle|Mount|Drawn Vehicle

As the page is (and should continue to be) admin locked, I can not make such an edit and would appreciate assistance.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:07, 27 April 2021 (MDT)

Thanks for catching that, the incomplete vehicle section has been fixed.--Blobby383b (talk) 22:37, 28 April 2021 (MDT)

Vehicles and Creatures

From my musings at Talk:Steam Tank (5e Creature), I think that the creature template would be a good fit to represent a vehicle, modified to remove all the things a vehicle wouldn't have, like Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores, the ability to make skill checks or speak a language etc. SirSprinkles (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2021 (MDT)

That does sound like it would fit much better then retrofitting the {{5e Equipment}} template. If done, you should either keep the Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma scores section to allow for the creation of mounts too or separate the creation of mounts and vehicles into two different templates where the vehicles one would also have damage threshold, crew, and carrying capacity. As recently discussed here, it would make sense to retrofit the {{5e Mounts and Vehicles}} template for this purpose. --Blobby383b (talk) 16:34, 11 February 2022 (MST)