SRD Talk:Alignment (Creature Statistic)

Here's an excellent example of what's wrong with the wiki as it presently exists. I want to find a page about alignment. I'm using v5. The only page on alignment is 3.5.

Is alignment different in the different versions? Should it be? These are questions I can't answer with the wiki as presently designed. It hurts everyone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cedric (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts. Cedric (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2022 (MST)

This link might help you out. 5e SRD:Alignment --Nuke The Earth (talk) 16:33, 9 November 2022 (MST)

The alignment page didn't mention it. It shouldn't be so difficult to make the best page about alignment for D&D. Is a Dungeon Master supposed to debate the concept on your link or the 3.5 link if s/he wants to invite maximum participation and collaboration? Also, do the admins know how difficult it is to reference pages on the wiki when every page has like prefix and suffix data that needs included (like "5e SRD", "(Creature statistic)") that is a mini, personal domain language? And what happens when you don't know what version your knowledge references? Cedric (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2022 (MST)

By the way, I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU SUCCEED. I am not trying to compete with the admins AT ALL. It't not about you or others here -- it's about building real community. The admins just seriously need a fricking CLUESTICK tapped on their head. And I'm here to help. Cedric (talk) 18:08, 9 November 2022 (MST)

You're right, the alignment page does not mention it, and it should. Looks like it was intended to be here, but Template:Dab apparently needs some fine-tuning. I'm noticing a few other alignment-specific pages that are absent (e.g. SRD:Alignment, 3e SRD:Alignment, and PFSRD:Alignment). If you'd like to help adjust the template, we'd appreciate the assistance. If that's not your cup of tea (or even if it is), we'd welcome other suggestions. Let us know what you have in mind. —Sledged (talk) 18:53, 9 November 2022 (MST)

The Alignment disambiguation page should automatically link to 5e SRD:Alignment; I do not know why it does not and will look into it. It is not clear to me what you are proposing that isn't already covered by the already-existing disambiguation pages. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 18:54, 9 November 2022 (MST)

So, are you saying, in general, that broad links, like "alignment" or "race" will automatically redirect to the latest version's page? Because why? Why not have ONE page for all versions that makes the best page about the concept? And please stop being such a (edited) cruel admin (/edited) User:Geodude671, like deleting pages that aren't in anyone's way. It is clear that there's hardly anyone caring about these pages, even though it is a crucial topic to the game. It seems your heavy-handed techniques in your administration is creating a chilling effect on participation. Are you interested in fixing this? Cedric (talk) 21:41, 9 November 2022 (MST)

Wiki maintenance, including page cleanup, is the mandate of wiki administrators. Deleting a page that doesn't fit with any version of D&D and lacks proper playable content is an appropriate action for an administrator to take. The wiki is not a journal; if you would like to record your thoughts in a journal-like state, please use your userspace. Your language and attitude toward fellow users in this discussion has not been in line with this wiki's behavioral standards, and I advise you to read through the relevant page to improve your conduct and civility. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 21:58, 9 November 2022 (MST)

The "mandate of wiki administrators"? Deleting a usaable page is NOT "page cleanup". Deleting a page that is about a NEW version of D&D and doesn't need playable content is NOT an appropriate action for an adminstrator to take. If the page was about Cooking leftover turkey, THEN IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. But this was about D&D -- what this wiki is built for. This about a new version of D&D which you don't have a page article built yet. This was not a journey at all. Do you see ANYTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH YOUR ACTIONS??? BECAUSE PLEASE STOP RUINING IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE BUT ADMINS. Cedric (talk) 22:19, 9 November 2022 (MST)

Please see my response at User talk:Cedric#D&DOne and Civility. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 23:29, 9 November 2022 (MST)

This did not address the issues above AT ALL. Why be uncivil by deleting pages that others could turn into something that YOU, personally, approve? Because it's about YOU. Right? Why not let others debate or discuss? You LET NOBODY collaborate. Cedric (talk) 17:13, 10 November 2022 (MST)

As I stated, D&DOne was deleted because it did not contain any usable game content, and read more like a blog post than anything else. D&D Wiki is not your personal blog, please consider using Tumblr or another similar site if that is what you want. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 17:56, 10 November 2022 (MST)

This comment did not address the issue above and the user is considered combative and "control freak" behavior.

Cedric, we have a few users every year that try to create their next version of Dungeons and Dragons. About 99% of them fall through miserably. We don't have pages that are about one or two mechanics that work for some idea for a pen and paper game that are totally obsolete or not released (D&D One). Any official pages will be discussed by the community before being created (or taken from the content that you have prepared at your userpage).

For this reason, we ask all users that want to create their own version of Dungeons and Dragons to first use their userspace. When there is enough content, then you are welcome to move it to a other page. If it continues, then it will continue to get evaluated as a game system. --Green Dragon (talk) 14:14, 11 November 2022 (MST)

I've edited Template:Dab so that the other alignment-specific pages should show up. If my edit causes issues elsewhere, undo my recent edit to that template, and please let me know. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 10:12, 10 November 2022 (MST)

It still hasn't shown up. Maybe you're ability to be administrator has faltered. Hit me up if you'd like some help. --Cedric.

I do see the SRD pages which Sledged linked, on the Alignment page. Perhaps your cache needs refreshing. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 14:24, 11 November 2022 (MST)