Template talk:4e Creature Top Essentials

Format

Since creatures take up either a full column in the sourcebooks or do so with an image, do you know of a way to make this work with display: block, like how Template:4e Racial Traits does? --Green Dragon (talk) 14:28, 23 May 2012 (MDT)

I've not used display declarations before so I'll have to read up. I admit I can't see the difference between using it and not using it. Marasmusine (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2012 (MDT)

Compared to width: 100% it will allow the template to wrap around images. --Green Dragon (talk) 16:28, 23 May 2012 (MDT)

I thought that happened anyway (e.g., Living Spell (4e Creature) but that might be because I always right-align my images). However, I'll have a play around and see what happens. Marasmusine (talk) 01:03, 24 May 2012 (MDT)

With the 60% width, of course, they do. However, with width: 100% they will still align themselves in their alignment, however they will place themselves outside of the template's bounds. --Green Dragon (talk) 16:19, 24 May 2012 (MDT)

I have already tried this on the older template, but as you can see the text now defines how much of the page the transcluded templates take up. If you add width: 100% to the transcluded templates then it pushes the images out anyway and from this point display: block does not consecutively work. The images, though, work now. For example see Death Worm (4e Creature). --Green Dragon (talk) 15:24, 26 May 2012 (MDT)

Hmm, that's too wide for my liking - the new format is quite tight (examples at [1] and [2] (left side); it's to do with the distance the eye has to travel from right to left at a newline when reading statistics.) I appreciate a webpage is a different layout to a book, but perhaps a 50% width in the same block as the image, but centre-justified? Marasmusine (talk) 16:57, 26 May 2012 (MDT)

We should try to mimic the books. Going off other websites is tacky and oft to error. Books are more official, and they have a full width across the columns. I guess maybe we could make it 50% and have text or images wrap around the other side. Also the indentations need to be corrected. --Green Dragon (talk) 17:27, 26 May 2012 (MDT)

Death Worm looks good now with the text wrap... on full screen at least. Goes a bit strange for screens less than 800 wide, or Windows 7 users like me who sometimes like to snap a window to half-width. That's a minor niggle though, this is fine. Marasmusine (talk) 01:33, 27 May 2012 (MDT)

This is how it looks on pages with multiple monsters on. Would be nice if we can get the templates to line up with the headers. Edit: I've just tried putting each header-and-statblock into its own block Like so. It lines the headers up with the statblocks, but the statblocks get reduced in width each time! Marasmusine (talk) 03:22, 27 May 2012 (MDT)

Hah, nevermind, putting some text (at least one line long) underneath the header. Looks fine now. I'll be sure to format other multi-template creature pages similarly as I come across them. Marasmusine (talk) 05:20, 27 May 2012 (MDT)

If we change it to be in a table, though, what is the point of even making it be 50%? We might as well just get rid of all the extra formatting we have done to make it work in columns and go back to how it was. --Green Dragon (talk) 11:19, 27 May 2012 (MDT)

Oh, yes, didn't spot that the text doesn't wrap around in the last revision. I need to play around some more then. Each header section needs to be in its own double-columned block. Marasmusine (talk) 12:02, 27 May 2012 (MDT)

I've gone back to 100% width, and opted for a 2-row table format in the monster page. This spaces out multiple creature entries correctly (e.g. Living Spell (4e Creature)). However, I now need to go through every 4e creature page to update the formatting. Marasmusine (talk) 02:22, 5 September 2012 (MDT)