Talk:Sea Serpent (5e Creature)
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Featured Article Nomination[edit]
— This article became a featured article! --Green Dragon (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)Together with the young sea serpent this is a good featured article. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: An image needs to be added to this page. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- Works now. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
Image/Formatting[edit]
That image is scrunching some of the text into a tiny column to the left it, making it difficult to read. Please fix it :)--GamerAim (talk) 16:46, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- What resolution are you using? --Green Dragon (talk) 16:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- I think the only chance would be to use columns, with a 100% width for the image. Maybe you can figure something out, or see if this will work. Maybe someone knows of a workaround trick? --Green Dragon (talk) 17:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- I, too, get a tiny column of single words and part-words at 1280x1024. I could try codeattack it if nobody else has luck, but I don't know what we actually want. An image that spans across the entire right half of the article, with the description below it, I'm guessing? --SgtLion (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be best. At 1920x1080 they both look great right now. --Green Dragon (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, how is the image now? --Green Dragon (talk) 18:28, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- Woah, you did it. And I still don't understand how that code works. I love it. Nice one. --SgtLion (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
A couple suggestions[edit]
How would you feel about adding the Siege Monster trait and giving the serpent a swallow attack a la the tarrasque? I feel that both would fit the monster well (though I'd actually probably use the swallow attack of the remorhaz or purple worm). --Geodude671 (talk) 00:18, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Image[edit]
I think there's a problem with the image File:Serpent Sapphire.jpg, which was uploaded under a CC3 license. The source is no longer available and no credit is given to the artist. For now, I have replaced the image with a free-to-use alternative. 01:59, 21 December 2023 (MST)
- After a quick look, the original image may have been mis-licensed on wikispaces. I wasn't able to find the original artist after searching with several different engines, so replacing the image is the right call. — Geodude
(talk | contribs | email) . . 10:57, 21 December 2023 (MST)
Official[edit]
There is already a sea serpent in Fizban's Treasury of Dragons. This needs to be a variant article. --Jerrytheemouse0911 (talk) 18:53, 23 January 2024 (MST)
- Those creatures have slightly different names, being the young sea serpent and ancient sea serpent. If Fizban's has a creature called just sea serpent, yes this page would need to be moved and a reference page created for Fizban's sea serpent, but since the names are different, this page does not need to be moved. --Blobby383b (talk) 11:15, 26 January 2024 (MST)
- I just checked and you are correct. Although the CR's make no sense in this context, I am still dead wrong. Feel free to slap me with a wet trout for that blunder. --Jerrytheemouse0911 (talk) 17:08, 5 February 2024 (MST)
CR[edit]
- Ignoring swallow and the potential of one player-character being restrained, this creature does ~60 damage per round with a +14 to hit. According to DMG p274 this is an offensive CR of 12.
- This creature has 313 hp and 17 AC with no other significant defensive traits. According to the DMG this is a defensive CR of 16.
- Averaging these two, per DMG guidance, gives a CR of 14.
It's a bit more difficult to quantify swallow but it can be used at most once in the first 3 rounds of combat, so I don't think that plus maybe restraining one party member is worth a whopping +4 to CR.
At first pass the CR 18 seems like an inadequate estimation. But maybe I'm missing something? - Guy 21:10, 22 March 2024 (MDT)
