Talk:Platinum Mechanoid (3.5e Race)

From the Author

Hi! I never noticed that there's (or actually there was) discussion about the race here on this site. Great! I like the layout here and everything seems to work fine. I didn't sign here, but nevertheless you couldn't make sure I'm me anyways, so no worries. You can send me a private message in WotC forums if you'd like to be sure. Anyways I give the users of DnD wiki all the needed blessings and permits to make changes to the race. -ArochanoX

Just did a huge stint...

Okay, I'm out... More tired than my dog, and I'm out of it. If anyone else wishes to fix up the last stuff, feel free to do so; of course, this is someone's work, until he allows edits directly onto the Race, then you can change things. Until then, simply voice your concerns and troubles on the Talk Page. --Pz.Az.04Maus 12:19, 19 July 2006 (MDT)

Thank you, Oneiros... --Pz.Az.04Maus 13:26, 19 July 2006 (MDT)

No problem. I went through and made a couple of the tables in the feats section a little more visable, too. I think we need a Class created for that thick, blue table you seem to favor ;) --Oneiros 13:36, 19 July 2006 (MDT)

You seem to start to know my Calling Card ^_^... Anyhoo, if you wish, it alright. Anyhoo, Good job. --Pz.Az.04Maus 13:37, 19 July 2006 (MDT)

Expanding and Clarifying

I really like this race as an alternative to Warforged. I feel there are a few items that need to be addressed though. I didn't want to straight up changing some one's writing so I thought I'd point out the issues and have the creator fix them or give their blessing on other people's embellishments.

"He had a beautiful wife, but they could not bare any children. Adoption wasn't an option." Why and why?

"He couldn't think of a life without his adorable wife. Later, his sorrow dried and he was ready to try again." What, like later that night?

"He took a deep look at his notes about their construction and fixed the problems he had encountered." Did this take some time or did he just realize he forgot to carry a 2?

"Absolute rationality often messes out feelings." Not too sure what you're trying to say with this. Misses out on feelings?

"At one point of history, Eredicius died of old age." Seems kind of like a blunt end for an important figure.

"The machines spent a little time in the empty house, but eventually they went on." Again there’s some ambiguity on the time frame. I understand there needs to be some about of cloudiness to give it a legendary feeling but some of these seem almost tersely vague.

“But the third was better than the two first machines.” How?

“One time, one pair of these machines decided to call themselves Mechanoids.” Just once?

I love the term “construction mate.” I wonder if my wife would hit me if I called her that.

“When a Mechanoid has had a successful 30 foot leap, it might think that it's the same to jump over a 30ft wide and 200 feet deep chasm.” I seem to be missing why this is different. Do you mean vertical versus horizontal?

“Because non-living creatures can never completely understand living creatures and vice versa, Mechanoids have over all quite calm relations to other races.” It seems to me that the lack of understanding (as it is a common spark of conflict) would cause problems with other races. The next few sentences seem to conflict with this statement as well.

I really dig the religion section. Very well thought out! What about the role of the Inevitables and the first failed creation of Eredicius? I see Eredicius as something like the Gnostic imperfect creator (but as a player or reader able to sympathize with or pity. Something like Doctor Frankenstein), add in something for the aborted Mechanoid to represent (maybe a satanic figure?), and then some like the Inevitables as some sort of guiding angels or something. Just some thoughts that came swarming in after reading that section.

“They are shiny and highly ornamental.” Even when polished iron isn’t that shiny. I may be way off this but isn’t iron more brittle than Bronze? Iron would be a material of mass manufacture I thought. Yet again, I could be way off. Steel is definitely stronger and shiny but wouldn’t be setting appropriate.

I lost the original draft of this due to a page time out and I feel like I missed some things or didn’t state them like I originally intended to. Hopefully this is helpful.

EXCELLENT start.

--Xenophon 04:06, 14 November 2006 (MST)

Hm... I would actually say go for the change. If there are things that make no sense, go ahead and change them. However, when you do, please try to keep the original idea in mind. Thanks, and I hope you do a good job. --Green Dragon 14:42, 17 November 2006 (MST)

Alright, made some serious edits be tried my best to expand while staying on the same track. Still not totally in sync with some of the text but I think it'll come in time... Or others can try their hand. --Xenophon 12:41, 25 November 2006 (MST)

It looks better, quite a bit better. Good Job. --Green Dragon 20:26, 25 November 2006 (MST)

Way Cool.

This is very interesting, and I agree, a great alternative to the copyrighted Warforged race. Question: does this info relate well to the 'living construct' subtype (do we have that page here on D&D Wiki?)? -- xido 22:43, 18 November 2007 (MST)

Wizards has something on it here. --Green Dragon 15:00, 25 November 2007 (MST)

Weight issues

Small/large nitpick about density. If an iron mechanoid weighs 800X3d12, and I rolled say a 22, then they would weigh approximately 17600 pounds, or nearly 8000kg. Given that the density of iron is 7.837, you'd have a 1.019 cubic metres volume or 35 cubic feet, so you would logistically be too large to be a medium creature if you were to weigh that much and still be made out of iron. Somebody screwed up physics here. I don't mind adamantine and mithral so much, because they are made up metals, hence I can't comment on physical properties. I suspect platinum is fucked up too, and can't be bothered to check, but please find something a little more reasonable? Remember, a pound is roughly half a kilogram, so don't break the suspension of disbelief with a character that can crush stone bridges under his mighty medium sized creature boots. Also, it kinda makes the Earthshaker fear requirement of weighing over 1000 lb a bit of a joke. Good times =)