Talk:Naruto: Shinobi (5e Class)/Archive 4

Debates

Scrolls

I am having a debate with my DM on the normal scrolls. In short, I attempted to keep eyes inside the medium scroll to conserve them for later examination under the idea that the eyes would be stuck in stasis and wouldn't rot (they would only rot in the 13th level Giant Scroll that is meant to seal in individuals). However, my DM let me know when I took the eyes out about 2 weeks later that the eyes had rotted. We decided to post a discussion thread here and let you guys decide for us.

TL:DR: Can the small, medium, large and weapon scrolls hold dead biological matter in stasis to the point where it wouldn't rot?

- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 17:28, 21 October 2019 (MDT)

I have always ruled that biological matter wouldn’t rot inside scrolls. Obviously it wouldn’t work for weapon scrolls but that’s beside the point. If I remember correctly, food is stored for extended periods of time in scrolls a number of times in the series. -Ref3rence (talk) 06:12, 22 October 2019 (MDT)

My DM doesn't agree with you, and decided to wait until Monday in case someone else responds and decide then, especially since he couldn't find any proof of food being stored inside the scrolls. I appreciate your quick response however, and in the end the decision will be made on Monday. I'll update this when the situation is resolved.

- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 08:29, 22 October 2019 (MDT)

Unfortunately, I think your DM may be right. While I can remember several scenes where a character pulled biological matter out of a scroll, they always seemed to be medical ninja/someone with medical knowledge(Orochimaru). For eyes especially, the show has made sure to emphasize that the eyes must be stored in a liquid solution of some sort in order to remain fresh. This can be seen in the Itachi vs Sasuke fight. ((Spoiler Alert)) While that was a Genjutsu, the idea of that solution is presented once again when Obito implants Itachi's eyes into Sasuke. That all being said, the biological material of the Naruto shinobi seems to be more durable than a normal humans, and scrolls do seem to have some kind of stasis effect, so it does seem like the eyes would at least survive two weeks. You could ask your DM if there's a way to make the eyes last maybe a week longer ((If you can get to a populated place with shops within a week)), and in that week try to purchase said preserving liquid, or try to alter the scroll to specifically preserve eyes. It doesn't guarantee your success with the eyes, but it gives you a chance to save them at least. Plus, I think it would be hilarious to have your character ask some random fruit vendor if they have information on any preserving liquids sold there, get a Nat 20, and then watch as this innocent vendor suddenly pulls a canister out of a watermelon and change the tone dramatically. --ReaperSRS

Path of the Warrior

Is warrior of steel intended to allow you to use your martial arts damage die to your melee weapon attacks. I want to implement it as this but then it conflicts with the laido ability which works off of increasing the weapon damage die.

I don't see how it conflicts. To be clear, the feature your referencing is Refined Warfare, which you get at 10th level. At 10th level, you martial arts die is 2d4. If you use Refined Warfare, it just increases the damage die to 2d6. It just increases the d4s to d6s.

• When it becomes 3d4, Refined Warfare increases it to 3d6.
• When it becomes 4d4, Refined Warfare increases it to 4d6.

Dojutsu

Can someone get the byakugan implanted if they already own the sharingan but one eye gets cut?

Yes, someone can have more than 1 Dōjutsu in such a situation. --Ref3rence (talk) 19:21, 21 July 2019 (MDT)

Could someone also use the flying raijian to teleport into or out the kamui dimension?

Yes, Flying Raijin works through dimensions. --Ref3rence (talk) 17:40, 22 July 2019 (MDT)

Can you add Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai

Ranmaru’s Kekkei Genkai was added as the Anti-Dojutsu boon. Everything else is in the works. -Ref3rence (talk) 15:36, 4 March 2020 (MST)

Nindo and Wind Style changes

I don't see the point of the "I will master all jutsu" nindo. You already gain all basic jutsu as you level up anyway. Or is this intended to gain some basic jutsu early/above your level?

As for the Rasenshuriken, I don't agree with the effect being cured at the end of a long rest. If it's meant to mirror how lucky Naruto was to avoid the permanent effects, then wouldn't it be better to make it so the user is only affected until a long rest while everyone else in the radius is affected until they recieve Greater Restoration? Because there is practically no reason to use Greater Restoration right now, when you can just rest as soon as possible.- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 12:25, 8 November 2019 (MST)

The new Nindo is intended for each Chakra Nature’s basic technique, not basic ninjutsu, that’s my bad on imprecise wording. As for Rasenshuriken, I added the long rest option because there’s a very real possibility that removing the ability to cast any jutsu or spells would permanently make a character useless, especially if they are the only one in the party capable of casting Greater Restoration. -Ref3rence (talk) 19:13, 8 November 2019 (MST)

Ah, fair enough.

As for the Greater Restoration, the world is big. It could be a very interesting quest to find someone that can cast or use jutsu/pills of an effect similar to Greater Restoration. Plus, the odds of friendly fire happening aren't the highest and something shouldn't be balanced on the off-chance of a party member's stupidity.

I do love the idea of a DMing a quest for players affected by that. Or even seeing the character development of a PC unable to cast jutsu. Could even give them a benefit through a feat or so with them training and learning to fight without charka but through taijutsu or Iaidō or Iaijutsu.

I know this is mostly personal in that case, but I do believe it is for the best. Not to mention, it is more accurate to the source material.- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 20:48, 8 November 2019 (MST)

That’s absolutely fair. I will undo that edit and clarify the Nindo. -Ref3rence (talk) 07:59, 9 November 2019 (MST)

Can having the perfected seal feat have your jutsus still be copied by an uchiha? it doesn't specify...

That’s really up to a DM, but I would say no. -Ref3rence (talk) 11:05, 16 December 2019 (MST)

If wood clones have the same statistic as Shadow clones, if you get the multi Shadow clone feat will it only cost two chakra to make them. Also can someone use their jutsu affinity To get more rinnegan affinity

The Rinnegan is not a chakra nature transformation, thus jutsu affinity does not affect it in any way. Wood clones are affected by Multi-Shadow Clone Master’s reduced cost, but I’m unsure why that matters as Multi removes the total limit, while the only benefit of wood clones is that they don’t count against your total.

Are Shadow clones able to be identified usuing dojutsu like rinnegan or sharingan?

Chakra Detection detects magical/chakra effects, so they would be able to identify shadow clones. -Ref3rence (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2020 (MST)

i am playing a HB campaign with my brother and i am path of exalted but i checked it out and though it could be edited. these are my ideas on improvements. For the Deva path of pain (yahiko) does the Shinra Tensei multiple times without appearing to use his chakra. so i thought maybe make it cost 0 or 1 chakra and make it 10 ft range, and say that you cant use again until 5 seconds (1 round is 6 seconds) so 1 round util you can use it, and the more force/chakra (range) makes the recharge longer, and the same goes for shinra tensei. i also was thinking maybe the exalted path could use some editing? -Karlvisher also if i could help in some small way with designing anime classes that would be great if that's not too much to ask - Karlvisher

Even with a recharge time, allowing for unlimited uses of Shinra Tensei would be incredibly unbalanced. As long as you're willing to flesh it out, you're free to create whatever you want. --Ref3rence (talk) 07:27, 25 July 2020 (MDT)

Mangekyou

I noticed that in the path of hatred the time for the mangenkio is missing

The timer/activation was just a hold over from a previous form, thanks for catching that. --Ref3rence (talk) 07:27, 25 July 2020 (MDT)

Another thing I noticed is that probably by error you forgot to add the sharingan implantation.

All Dojutsu implantations are covered under the Ninja Paths header. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2020 (MDT)

For the Mangekyo Tsukuyomi, what higher levels are there to cast, and how does it affect the ability's effects? Or should those parts just be ignored

Thanks for catching that, the issue has been resolved. --Ref3rence (talk) 19:53, 16 September 2020 (MDT)

Izanagi

What does “increases the ability's duration to 10 minutes and enables its use as an action“ mean in Izanagi, a jutsu that’s used to negate a death? -Ref3rence (talk) 11:21, 8 November 2019 (MST)

It allows the user to use it in advance, when they think or know they're about to do something that will kill them. This saves them from having to use their reaction (in case they already used it or need to use it) since the ability will automatically bring them back if they die during the duration.

- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 11:56, 8 November 2019 (MST)

Thank you. I may edit the description later to make that a little more evident. -Ref3rence (talk) 12:03, 8 November 2019 (MST)

No worries, that's fair enough.

- Voided Essence, The Void Walker (talk) 12:38, 8 November 2019 (MST)

EMS=

Okay the way how the ems is it actually doesn't give you an additional 2 abilities It's just that when you get the eyes it has the possibility of changing your mangekyou abilities There is no way to get 4 mangekyou abilities unless have for eyes (Sorry it was just really bugging me and also kind of makes the path of hatred a lot more powerful although that is a boon)

The Eternal Mangekyou does actually give the user the abilities of the other recipient. You can check it on the Naruto Wiki. -Kiralokiin (talk) 11:38, 11 November 2019 (MST)

But if that's the case that means Sasuke should be able to use tsukiyomi but he's never used it

I see your point, but simply because he doesn't use it, it doesn't mean he can't. - Kiralokiin (talk) 11:52, 11 November 2019 (MST)

but if he could don't you think it would have been mentioned in a Data book right now or he probably would have used it already

This is all information taken from the Wiki, buddy. If you like, you can go over there and check their sources but as of now, I'm sure that the current way it works is fine. -Kiralokiin (talk) 09:42, 12 November 2019 (MST)

Maybe a chakra cost for mangekyou abilities

For the Mangekyō abilities, I believe that the threat of damage and, more importantly, exhaustion makes a chakra cost unnecessary. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:04, 17 July 2019 (MDT)

Jinchuriki

Do the jinchuriki while in tailed best mode have the attacks and abilities of their tailed best and if so could a jinchuriki transform in kunistukami?

While in Tailed Beast Mode, you retain your own features in addition to the Tailed Beast's. It's stated in the description of Kunitsukami (5e Creature), that in order to become it, you need a piece of all of the Tailed Beasts' chakra in addition to some form of Six Paths chakra, so technically they could, but only under the right circumstances. --Ref3rence (talk) 07:27, 25 July 2020 (MDT)

OK thanks

Other

Also just asking but should the three smaller rasengans that's part of planetary Rasengan do regular rasengan damage Because for a move that takes up that much chakra it takes a full turn to set up it doesn't seem worth it damage wise

I could see about slightly buffing it, but as is, 60 feet of knock-back is pretty powerful if used right. The best I could give would be a cost decrease. -Ref3rence (talk) 05:51, 12 December 2019 (MST)

Yo ref why is the page on lockdown is it because of balancing or did something happen??and if it's because of balancing where's the thing that they're trying to balance

The Page is currently locked due to a disagreement regarding the balance of Swift Style: Surge. The discussion on it is still ongoing, but I’m hoping it concludes shortly. -Ref3rence (talk) 05:37, 21 January 2020 (MST)

This isn't much of a request as much as a question(I didn't know where to put this). I was wondering what happens if a player or npc seals the Ten-tails inside themselves. I am aware of the Jinchuuriki race and Path of the Beast. I was wondering if being the Jinchuuriki of the Ten-tails does anything special. In some parts of Path of Totality and Path of the Sage, it mentions possibly giving the sub-class features as an epic boon. Is this what was referred to? Sorry if it is a stupid question. Deducted

No worries. How powerful a Ten-Tails jinchuriki is ultimately dependent on the DM. If the DM wants the player to be more like Juubito or doesn't want them to suddenly become way more powerful than other players, a handful of Sage and Totality features would do fine. If the DM is less concerned about that and wants more of a Madara-type jinchuriki, it'd be more along the lines of all Sage and Totality features, Rinne Sharingan, and Six Paths Sage Mode. Hope this helps. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:21, 17 May 2020 (MDT)

This helps a bunch! Thank you for the answer, btw huge fan of your work. Deducted

I don't know if this is were I would ask this. I was wondering about the Kakashi cells if you get that boon do you add the chakra points and the constitution then half it or do I half the chakra points then add the constitution? -D

Kakashi's cells halve the total amount of chakra. --Ref3rence (talk) 00:57, 21 May 2020 (MDT)

Okay Thanks so much!!! I really love your work! Keep up the great work!!! I also had a question about the feats I am pretty new to dnd and me and a couple of my friends were gonna start a campaign online because of the corona and I was gonna use this as my class. I saw that is says I could choose a ninja feat instead of a normal feat, but I don't know anything about normal feats lol. So I was hoping you could help me out?-D

Feats are an optional rule that allows a player to replace the Ability Score Increase feature with any one feat. —Ref3rence (talk) 17:55, 21 May 2020 (MDT)

Okay thanks again. Also for the Kakashi's cells do you round down or up when you half it? -D

I’m not really in a good place to edit right now, but I would say round up on Kakashi’s Cells. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:41, 22 May 2020 (MDT)

Okay thanks again. You do great work! You need a break sometimes.-D

I really think, that the explosive style is very "control" thinking about everything that it represents in the anime. In Naruto, the explosive style used by Deidara is super aggressive and apparently seeks to do tons of damage to his jutsus and explosions, and on this site he looks much more like a thinking style.think it's something that can be changed?

The main Explosion Style that one can get as a Kekkei Genkai in this class is built more so around how Gari uses it. Deidara's clay-based Explosive Style jutsu are under their own unique jutsu tab. I don't think it'd be a good idea to make them deal lots of damage with little thought. --Ref3rence (talk) 11:54, 27 May 2020 (MDT)

I understand, I didn’t remember Gari, but thanks for the explanation, (when I talked about not thinking too much I just meant to be a style closer to fire, which gives a lot of damage but doesn’t necessarily bring control in your quit)

I was wondering could the basic ice style be used the way shoto todoroki uses his ice just to like freeze someone to restrain them not like how he freezes the entire building I just mean it as more of one person?-D

It's up to a DM's discretion, but I'd say you could create restraints, but not directly freeze an entire person directly.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:47, 2 June 2020 (MDT)

I would like for perfect susanoo to be an epic boon that like an extra stage of susanoo, same for indura susanoo (tho it would have to have the requirement of perfect susanoo) that would be pretty cool. i was thinking it could be an extra +7 or so to ac, and just like now an extra attack with your susanoo weapon. would also like if your susanoo weapon was chosen by the player, after all they susanoo weapon didn't really seem to me like an alignment thing. thank you for hearing me out - The Archmage Karsus

Perfect Susanoo's official name is Complete Body Susanoo, and is currently a Mangekyou ability based on the fact that Madara was never shown having any ability, but is almost never shown not having Complete Body Susanoo; Majestic Attire Susanoo was also wrapped into the same feature. Indra Susanoo is already an epic boon. I may modify Susanoo to allow for choosing one's weapons later, but I believe the current system is far more interesting. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:04, 6 November 2020 (MST)

The main part of my sugestion was making Complete body susanoo (I was confused by the susanoo that sasuke used againts madara before obtaining his rinnegan, the same one he combined with his curse mark) have an increase in ac compared to armoured as it is shown in lore to have an increase in durability compared to it due to being if i remember corectly a susanoo on top of a susanoo, but thanks for hearing me out! I would like to say that in the anime indra's susanoo was if i remember corectly extremely hot in tempurature so i wanted to sugest that maybe it could deal extra fire damage on unarmed strikes, as well as deal fire damage to those that touch it via unarmed strikes. I profusely thank you for hearing me out again! -The Archmage Karsus

No worries. I've nerfed Complete Body Susanoo to counterbalance the AC increase as it was already one of the more powerful Mangekyō abilities, but it should still be plenty useful. I haven't been able to find anything on the Indra Susanoo being hot beyond its lightning aesthetic, however, so that effect has not been added. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:37, 6 November 2020 (MST)

I apologize for not showing this earlier, I didn't really have time to look for it at that point. Sorry for the inconvenience! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHa-k7GDtn8 at 37 seconds. in adition, i have found that madara was able to use izanagi if that helps you in the future -The Archmage Karsus

Thanks, the passive damage has been added. Also, Izanagi is a technique that any Sharingan user can use regardless of Mangekyou. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:05, 6 November 2020 (MST)

Thanks for hearing me out! love your work! -The Archmage Karsus

I wanted to request that Bijuu chakra modes gave an ac bonus, as it was a little weird to me that it normally doesnt, because it is faster than lighting mode in reaction time.

I have chosen to slightly increase its damage reduction so as to greater differentiate it from similar features, and so as to balance it given recent Susanoo changes and a previous nerf. --Ref3rence (talk) 18:41, 8 November 2020 (MST)

If this is not in-depth enough or there is something still confusing you, please let me know. --Ref3rence (talk) 18:34, 27 November 2020 (MST)

Oh! This helps a bunch! I thought that it meant I still had to acquire unique Jutsu the normal way, thanks for clearing that up! Does that mean I can take Path unique jutsu as well? Big fan of your work, keep it up.

As long as you have the necessary prerequisites, you absolutely can. It's also important to note that Fuinjutsu and Chakra Absorbing Jutsu still require their respective feats. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:04, 28 November 2020 (MST)

What exactly does the mystical palm Jutsu do?

Thanks for catching that! The description must have gotten lost in a previous edit. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:26, 5 December 2020 (MST)

How much chakra does the wood clones need to be made cuz from what it looks like they are literally just there?

Since they take 3 hours to create, they do not cost any chakra. That being said, I intend to completely rework Hashi cells some time in the future, but most likely not soon since my hands are kinda full for the minute. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:18, 12 December 2020 (MST)

Dunno if this is the right section or not. But could you take a look at the Path of Shikigami's 3rd feature? At will and no cost means they could hypothetically duplicate an unlimited amount of shuriken.

Thanks for catching that, I have changed it to be more in line with what I had originally intended. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:28, 5 December 2020 (MST)

Is the creation of everything jutsu actually meant to be able to copy any jutsu? I feel like more or less everyone who gets that kekkei genkai would just spam the 500 damage kaguya move, since its only 5 chakra more, and there are more or less 0 downsides to the jutsu.

Revised wording that, while previously implied, should have been outright stated from the beginning. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:45, 14 December 2020 (MST)

Hello, the All Killing Ash-Bones jutsu is still within the range of how you reworded Creation of Everything. You still spend 45 chakra, to cast a 40 chakra jutsu that can effectively rend most major threats. And while a DM should be the one to lead in their players, and not allow them to get -that- out of control, I imagine something that Kaguya herself uses exclusively, a Kekkei Mora, would be at least at a chakra cost higher than the Creation of Everything Jutsu, as it is a very powerful jutsu, created by the mother of the sage of six paths(Who created the CoET jutsu.) 500 damage on just a spell attack roll, is crazily strong. Though easily avoided, I can see it becoming an issue for the players who -seriously- want to head down the Yin-Yang style. Thanks again! :)

Modified AKAB to be more of a post-20th level jutsu for Path of Suffering players, with the lower cost being mostly for Otsutsuki/Boon bankers. Also added a restriction to CoE, because it doesn't make much sense for it to be able to produce jutsu like 64 Palms. I kinda adapted CoE lazily the first time around with the idea of "it's just Wish" without considering this class's equivalent of 10th level spells, so you helping me workshop it is a big help, thanks. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:47, 15 December 2020 (MST)

Samehada seems to be a bit lack luster when compared to the other 7 blades, given the swords notoriety in the show. A fusion mechanic, or making it more in line with the Kisame statblock would make it a much nicer addition.

And to make Dojutsu Master more valuable, I would add stipulations to Byakugan, and Ketsuryugan to make it so you can only Master so much of a dojutsu before you need dojutsu Master, if they're implanted. Rinnegan as well should probably get one, to discourage players who haven't taken them as a starting subclass to not go on an eye hunt.

Samehada deals 3d8 damage and restores chakra, so it's already pretty powerful compared to the others. Implantation limitations are listed immediately under the Ninja Paths heading. --Ref3rence (talk) 21:05, 15 December 2020 (MST)

Fair enough, I did misread Samehada, to an extent. But I still feel it's somewhat lackluster compared to the other blades. But I digress.

You may create a number of hands up to the most tails your Tailed Beast has for an equal number of chakra points that last until the end of this feature. - Is listed under Bijuu Chakra Mode(Lvl 15) on the Path of the Beast. What does this exactly do, besides give you more hands? Does it increase action economy? Or is it just decorative?

And for the final ability of the puppeteer class, does that turn you into a different entity, giving you a new stat block? If not, adding proficiency bonus overtop of all of those things could be a bit iffy. More so at levels surpassing level 20, but even once you hit it. It would stack with unarmored defense, which already gives proficiency bonus overtop, stacking to what... Proficiency at level 20 is +6 I believe. So +6 to Ac as default due to unarmored. And then an additional +6 AC?

And the Truth-Seeking Orb Execution jutsu. 10d8 is a lot, but given that the orbs can literally turn anything they touch to dust, inserting one slowly into someone's brain should probably just kill them out right. 3 turns of not being able to do anything for this could be extended to 5-6 turns to make up for this fact, but I do sincerely feel it should just kill the target outright. Maybe increase the cost, as well?

And finally, 3 feats, the Nara Shinobi, Fuuinjutsu one, and the Absorption ones state that you can take a unique nara/absorption/sealing jutsu instead of a jutsu when you gain it. How do you gain jutsu? Does it mean the jutsu you gain via leveling? There's really no clear method to 'gain jutsu,' that I can see.

BCM's hands were mainly meant to mainly assist in interactions and to be used alongside Twin Rasengan to recreate Spiraling Strife Spheres/Rasengan Barrage. The Automaton AC bonus was ill-conceived at best, and has been remedied. TSOE is now in a much better state thanks to your contributions. As for the mentioned feats, "gaining a jutsu" is exactly what it sounds like. Any time the number of jutsu you can cast increases (i.e. gaining Transformation at 4th level, gaining a jutsu of your choice at each level with non-linear jutsu), you may replace it with one of the mentioned jutsu. It's like gaining a spell. --Ref3rence (talk) 21:59, 17 December 2020 (MST)

Kirin mentions taking over an existing storm to launch the Jutsu, does this mean it is free of cost like in the series?

Revised the wording of Kirin since it was vague to begin with in more than just that aspect. Hopefully this clears things up! --Ref3rence (talk) 09:08, 18 December 2020 (MST)

Should change Jashin Immortality a bit. Itl be a bit stronger, but being knocked to 0 hp shouldn't automatically knock a head off. It should just knock em unconscious for a few rounds. Pcs should be made to figure out how to deal with it. Also, if you have a discord message ProfessorNight#2773, itl save this page from clutter as well, lol.

Does Full Body Susano increase size?

Complete-Body Susanoo does exactly what it says, nothing more, nothing less, so it does not increase size; you're still only Huge. As for Jashin immortality, I'm still trying to figure out a good way to change it. I'm thinking something along the lines of Undead Fortitude, but for any damage explicitly targeting the neck. Alternatively, we could give your neck a reduced hit point pool (maybe your neck's hit dice are 2 tiers lower?). As for the discord, I know it's kinda weird but I try to keep everything regarding this wiki on this wiki. I'll probably do an archive sweep sooner or later. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:24, 19 December 2020 (MST)

Fair enough on the Discord tidbit. If you ever change your mind, you have my disc. As for Jashin, making their neck more vulnerable is a good start. But no matter how you do it, Jashin will be strong. It's built to be strong. Perhaps decreasing the hit die of the character who takes it in general would balance it out, to make them a bit squishier.

Also, the level 10 technique for Rinnegan, Black Receiver is only usable at level 15, since he has no way to create them. Id change the wording of the creation cost, or add a lower level option for making them.

And I feel Ashura Reincarnation, while really cool, and definitely useful in the later stages, is a bit lack luster compared to Indra. Perhaps adding a smaller benefit alongside the Chakra would make it a much more sought after boon.

Took me a minute to figure out exactly what your Rinnegan criticism was, situation has been resolved. As for the reincarnations, the point is for Indra to be more powerful early on, being an immediate prodigy in canon, while Asura gradually becomes insanely more powerful, just like canon once again. --Ref3rence (talk) 22:37, 19 December 2020 (MST)

How long does the Basic Lightning Jutsu last? Only for one attack or longer, because there is no Duration mentioned?

Hi, according to the class, every time you use a Mangekyou Jutsu you must make a Constitution Saving Throw, but when using Kamui´s Phase ability, Do you need to keep on making the saving throw every time you spend chakra to maintain this ability? And once you have EMS wouldn´t it be a bit powerful, since you do not have any drawbacks? You could stay intangible for a considerable amount of time. How many uses does Mangekyou have?

You must make a Constitution saving throw every time you maintain Phase. And yes, EMS makes most, if not all, Mangekyou abilities incredibly powerful. That being said, EMS can't be obtained through leveling, and it is really at a DMs behest how/when a PC gains their EMS abilities (same goes with Rinnegan btw, Madara didn't get his until he was almost dead), so I wouldn't worry too much about that. MS doesn't have limited uses due to the threat of exhaustion/blindness, any mention is just a hold over from previous version. --Ref3rence (talk) 23:36, 22 December 2020 (MST)

The Nindo "Even the strongest of enemies have a weakness" should be changed from perception vs passive perception, to insight vs passive insight. Passive insight is 10 + Wisdom + Proficiency(If proficient in insight). Insight makes more sense for the nindo, since perception is just base observation, and insight is a fundamental dive into a target's psyche, and is used to discern lies, gaining clues from a person's body, and predicting their next moves. Sykon (talk) 00:17, 28 December 2020 (MST)

I would generally agree if it didn't specifically read vulnerabilities, which are based on body composition rather than how a person moves, thus perception is much more fitting. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:27, 28 December 2020 (MST)

Is it right that if you fail one saving throw against any type of Genjutsu (Path of Hatred or Path of Mind) you can get Paralyzed for 1 Minute, so you have basicly lost the combat? In the anime/manga there was a possibility to release someone. Mabye with a Jutsu in the Basic Style that lets you retry the save for yourself and others could make that more balanced?

Thanks for bringing the issue to my attention, it has been remedied by making it function similarly to other spells. That being said, the whole “making a player lose combat” thing isn’t entirely true, since it requires concentration, but in large numbers the problem comes up none-the-less. —Ref3rence (talk) 16:17, 30 December 2020 (MST)

Is it normal that most basic jutsu have no chakra cost?

Basic jutsu are meant to be this class's equivalent to cantrips, having a limited a cost and effect, so most do not have a cost. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:31, 26 November 2020 (MST)

Is it right that you can combine the Clone Meditation from the Sage subclass together with the Multi-Shadow Clone Jutsu Master Feat to gain like 100 Chakra and 240 temporary hit points when you dispel all Clones at once and let them all meditate for the maximum number of time so everyone gives you like 12 temporary hit points and 5 Chakra?

It was initially vague, but that was intended to still be effected by the half Intelligence time maximum. Hopefully the most recent edit has clarified this! --Ref3rence (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2020 (MST)

Howdy, me again. I noticed that Sage Art had some troubling aspects. You can use a combination of your clones meditating and that, to spend your time doubling a jutsu. My friend managed to calculate an attack over 46 thousand.

I'd be interested in seeing the calc, and if it'd be usable in anyway (especially the most recent clarification). Some changes will probably be made in the future, but that will be tomorrow's problem. --Ref3rence (talk) 22:36, 5 December 2020 (MST)

Rinnegan should benefit from ignoring visual genjutsu. It has genjutsu protection in the anime. It should at least have protection against Tsukiyomi, as Tsukiyomi is ridiculously powerful. Sykon (talk) 22:44, 31 December 2020 (MST)

While canonically Rinnegan should ignore genjutsu, it's already extremely powerful as is. It's also important to remember that Tsukuyomi has some pretty major downsides to use and requires concentration. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:08, 1 January 2021 (MST)

That is very true, however in a 1 on 1 getting hit with a Tsukiyomi is a death sentence. As it doesn't stipulate that the user has to keep making con saves as they maintain it, and can more or less keep someone paralyzed forever as they beat them to death. It would also completely destroy most otsutsuki members. And as Tsukiyomi lasted for an instant in actual time, I don't think its feasible to be able to keep it active forever. Sykon (talk) 17:55, 1 January 2021 (MST)

I have no idea how I didn't realize that Tsukuyomi only lasts for an instant this long. Maybe it should grant exhaustion from the target's mental strain? --Ref3rence (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2021 (MST)

Lmfao. Certainly still strong but more manageable. That sounds like it would work. I would add a constitution saving throw on it. Artificially enhance the DC if need be. But if someone has the fortitude to withstand exhaustion shouldn't take hold. Sykon (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2021 (MST)

Question about Dojutsu-Acceptant Biology Boon and dojutsu boons in general,

1. Let’s say I pull a Danzo and add a crap ton of Jougans to my arm, would my crit range just automatically go down depending in the amount of eyes or would their be some sort of special rule for that?

2. Is it possible to to transplant a Rinne Sharingan? If so then would there be any buffs besides Infinite Tsukoyomi?

3. Shouldn’t Jougan give the user some truesight as shown by Boruto?

4. I know you’ve clarified how dojutsus subclasses work, but I felt as if it isn’t that fleshed out like let’s say you only have 1 implanted Byakugan, would it lower your line of sight? Same goes for other dojutsu (Including Boons but excluding Jougan since I presume it’s only supposed to be 1 eye)

5. Would it be possible to take eyes of of someone with Rinnegan Manifestation/Tensei Byakugan and gain all of their abilites without the Dojutsu Master feat?

6. Could someone just flat out implant EMS eyes and gain all the MS abilites? (Excluding Susanno since that needs Dojutsu Master Ig)

Thanks for the response

1. Jōgan implantation could, theoretically, stack forever, but that would require some pretty negligent DMing. This one is absolutely up to each DM individually.

2. Rinne Sharingan implantation is also heavily DM-based, and we don't really have a canon answer. I'd rule that it would act identically to the original user using it.

3. As far as individual boons go, I feel like Jōgan truesight would push it a little too far. I plan on fleshing it out once we finally get more Boruto anime content, and chakra sense will be among the first things added.

4. As far as we've seen in canon, individual dojutsu only modify how many specific abilities you get, thus individual Byakugan wouldn't change anything.

5. All implanted dojutsu are limited by implantation regardless of acquisition, so no.

6. Once again, we don't really have a canon answer for this. I'd rule that you only would if you were a blood relative, another DM might not. --Ref3rence (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2021 (MST)

Since that Path of the Beast subclass says you can have multiple tailed beasts sealed inside you, would there be more buffs and downsides or is there gonna be an optional rule for it like you did with the Ten-Tails.

I will add rulings to the class once I finish up another project. I believe originally the only benefit was extra uses of Hidden Chakra.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:15, 6 January 2021 (MST)

Also just a slightly personal opinion you should change onyx chidori to the susanoo beads And put onyx chidori in unique jutsus.

Onyx chidori was chosen because, in my opinion, the Susanoo beads are too similar to the lawful Susanoo’s shuriken. If you suggest any unique Earth Style jutsu, I could see about adding them. -Ref3rence (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2020 (MST)

A MS ability based on Fugaku’s (Prolly could say the same for Madara and Obito) supposed ability to mind control a Tailed Beast through Genjutsu? Since the 7th level Path of Hatred ability can’t really cover it tbh

Neither Fugaku nor Madara are shown to have any unique Mangekyou ability, and we know that Obito has Kamui, so its very likely in canon that controlling a tailed beast is just a thing any three-tomoe sharingan can do. I will add charmed and frightened to genjutsu features, though it will likely be at a high cost. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:24, 15 January 2021 (MST)

Just spitballing here, but would controlling the Gedo Statue be an Epic Boon or 20th level Alternate feature for Path of the Exalted?

As detailed in [[Gedo Mazo (5e Creature)|the Gedo Mazo's creature page), any creature with a Rinnegan can do it. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:28, 27 January 2021 (MST)

Are Jinchuriki whom have befriended their tailed beast even able to be affected by Genjutsu? Their tailed beast could simply break them out of it by disrupting chakra flow. Sykon (talk) 06:29, 7 January 2021 (MST)

At the moment they are, but as other (archived) discussions have implied, I plan on reworking the tailed beasts as a whole. --Ref3rence (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2021 (MST)

I’m presuming that you can only take Totsuka Blade,Yata Mirror and Complete-Body Susanno as an MS ability once?

I guess theoretically, you could take Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror more than once, and CBS could be taken more than once with EMS (which would make sense given the size of Hagoromo's Susanoo), but none of them would really be the best idea. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:23, 9 January 2021 (MST)

In birth of the ten tails Jinchuuriki, it says sage mode minutes are always max, does this mean you are always in sage mode like Madara? Can it be turned off without releasing the tentails?

That is correct, it is permanent like Madara's Sage Mode, and the only way to end the effect is to no longer be the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:08, 9 January 2021 (MST)

For Kamui Lightning Cutter, does Susanoo need to be active?

Susanoo doesn't have to be active, the requirement is intended to represent the mastery of one's mangekyou. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2021 (MST)

Is it possible to have multiple Cursed Marks,Kama Seals and Permanence features the same way you can have multiple Tailed Beasts sealed inside of you?

I don't believe one could have more than one cursed mark for the same reason one can't intake too much natural energy in sage mode, nor Kama Seals due to the nature of the Ōtsutsuki. I will probably add rules for more bound souls in the future, however. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2021 (MST)

Since it’s kinda obvious that using Dojutsu-Acceptant Biology would grant you more MS abilities for Sharingan and presumably more Rinnegan abilities for Rinnegan. What would having extra byakugans give you?

Given how all of Shin's mangekyou had the same ability, I do not believe Dojutsu-Acceptant Biology would grant you more of either dojutsu's unique abilities. The sole purpose of the boon is to overcome the downsides of using Mangekyou to be honest. I have revised the wording to make this more clear, and have added at least 1 use for additional Byakugan. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:28, 10 January 2021 (MST)

Can you use Inorganic Reincarnation on a black receiver?

As long as it's not being held or worn, I don't see why not. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:26, 12 January 2021 (MST)

Dojutsu Clan Boons say that “You can choose this subclass at 3rd level” does that mean that subclasses have prerequisites now?

If not then I feel like they could be buffed more like the other subclass based boons considering the only thing they give is not being limited to implantation

The restriction is solely for campaigns that choose to use clans. In such a case, they are already pretty powerful. —Ref3rence (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2021 (MST)

What do you mean by alternative styles, under the Lee Clan? Sykon (talk) 14:29, 13 January 2021 (MST)

Also, Ketsruygan doesn't have the ability to stay active constantly at higher levels. Every other eye has a way to do so, but Ketsruygan still requires. Sykon (talk) 14:48, 13 January 2021 (MST)

The “alternative options” mentioned are in reference to the fact that you can gain additional hit dice instead of gaining a nature. I left it vague to make room for other options that I plan to add in the future like additional chakra points or movement speed, but it’s going to take me a while to decide on exact numbers for these options between working on my main project and working. Mastered Ketsuryugan was intended to allow for constant activation, but was not updated when we switched from chakra cost to saving throws, sorry about that. —Ref3rence (talk) 16:00, 13 January 2021 (MST)

You answered in an earlier question that you can take Complete-Body-Susanno as an MS ability twice (Through EMS or possibly implantation) in order to get a Susanno similar to Hagoromo's. If so, what would be the stats and buffs of taking CMS multiple times (Especially with something like Dojutsu-Acceptant-Biology + Dojustsu Master)

Doesn't Susanno go through a fleshy skin phase before becoming armored? It also has a humanoid form with legs before it reaches CMS as shown by Sasuke and Madara.

I have added additionally rulings for multiple CBS. As for humanoid susanoo, while it does exist in canon it feels incredibly unrewarding to have to evolve your Susanoo twice. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:20, 15 January 2021 (MST)

One of my players wants to drown an npc with the hydrafication jutsu by going into their lungs.. How would you go about ruling that? Sykon (talk) 13:44, 15 January 2021 (MST)

I'd probably make it something along the lines of making a Dexterity save against your target's Strength save while you're grappling them as an action. On your success, they begin choking. If they succeed, they can breath again. I might actually make a variant rule around a choke action, so thanks for bringing this up! --Ref3rence (talk) 20:51, 15 January 2021 (MST)

Would 1 Byakugan give you the same line of sight and perception as the average 2? (Same goes for having more than 2)

There is no unique rulings for having more or less than 1 byakugan. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2021 (MST)

Hey, I'm having a little bit of trouble trying to understand what the feat "Mastering the Basics" mean exactly. Could you please clarify the meaning.

I don't mean to sound rude, but I don't see how it could be confused. You gain affinity in Basic Ninjutsu unless you already have affinity in Basic Ninjutsu, in which case you gain affinity in a chakra nature of your choice that you already know. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2021 (MST)

Lariat should be a spell attack roll, not a save in my opinion. Your aim is important in using it. Sykon (talk) 02:04, 17 January 2021 (MST)

I thought about that when making it, but I don't see armor doing much when it comes to blocking a lightning style lariat. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2021 (MST)

So for the Path of the Puppet Master subclass, how exactly do we attack with the puppet? I know we use the action or bonus action to do that. What I mean is do the puppets use the attacks of the creatures they are based on like a Worg puppet’s attack is the same as a regular Worg?

The puppet uses the same attacks as its template creature, so a worg puppet would make its bite attack like you said. --Ref3rence (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2021 (MST)

By the way I have about the Puppets from the Puppet Master subclass. Do the puppets also obtain the abilities from their base creature like pack tactics? I assume that’s a no.

Thanks for catching that, there was no defined rulings but given how powerful pack tactics is there definitely should be (and is now). --Ref3rence (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2021 (MST)

I’m having a bit of trouble trying to fully understand something about the Path of Sealing subclass. When it says I can store nature elements or Jutsus of a nature element. I assume it is talking about the Chakra Nature Jutsus like Lightning and Fire.

I don't blame you for not understanding Nature Sealing Technique fully, as it wasn't written super well. Hopefully this has been fixed. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:19, 20 January 2021 (MST)

A question about the Nara Clan boon. When it says that my character can learn one Shadow Imitation Technique when they learn a new jutsu, what exactly does that mean?

I'll give you an example. A shinobi gains the Nara Clan Boon at 1st level, and picks Earth Style at 2nd level. Instead of gaining Lightweight Boulder immediately, they may choose to gain Shadow Possession Jutsu. At 8th level, instead of gaining Stone Pillar Spears, they may instead gain Shadow Piercing Jutsu. Hope this clears things up. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2021 (MST)

How would Pseudo Jinchurikis lose control during initial release and all that? Or is that entirely up to the DM

There's really no canon reason for pseudo-jinchuriki to use any rules not included in the Path of the Beast, though it would probably act as an implanted subclass. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2021 (MST)

How would dojutsu implants work with Impure World Reincarnation? (Edo Tensei) Could we just take their dojutsus and theoretically gain an infinite supply of dojutsu as long as we have a sacrifice and know the jutsu?

That's not how that works in canon, I have revised the wording to make this more obvious (and to make it more interesting and canon-compliant). --Ref3rence (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2021 (MST)

I'm having a hard time understanding how Non-Linear Jutsu is supposed to work. Could I get an example?

Absolutely! At 2nd level, Character chooses Water Style, and automatically gains Basic Ninjutsu. They can use both natures' basic jutsu, and chooses exclusively only Water Style jutsu: in this case Super Shark Bomb and Steaming Danger Tyranny (one for each nature they gained). At 3rd level, they choose only Basic Ninjutsu: in this case Rasengan and Giant Rasengan (which count as 1 because they are Basic). At 4th level, they may choose 2 jutsu to learn since it is an even level: in this instance they choose Planetary Rasengan, and Twin Rasengan (which count as 1 jutsu because Basic), and Water Dragon.

Not at all, I don't mind helping. I should really make an account on here. Anyway... Perhaps adding something to the base kit of Shinobis to help combat status ailments like fear and what not would be handy. Assassin is fine as it is, but the level 7 ability can cripple more or less anyone, so a way to fight back against it would be nice.

In Sage Art it mentions multiple uses multiple times, does this mean I can double the range then double the range again for a cost of 2 mins of sage mode?

It specifies that "you may spend multiple uses on multiple effects", so I would dictate that you could double damage and range at a cost of 2 minutes, but you could not double range twice. Might still cut it down to one effect per jutsu, as it's not like Sage Minato's Rasengan is any different from Sage Naruto's or Sage Jiraiya's, but I'd have to give it more thought/discussion first. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:04, 20 December 2020 (MST)

are clones able to use hidden chakra? it isn't stated if they can or not

Clones can use Hidden Chakra, but it still counts to your overall number of uses. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:06, 6 January 2021 (MST)

Would there be some sort of special rule for having an irregular amount of dojutsu eyes? (Basically more or less than the average 2 eyes)

Having less than 2 Dōjutsu only limits how many Mangekyō abilities you have, and having more than 2 requires the Dōjutsu-Acceptant Biology boon. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2021 (MST)

So it would only affect Sharingan users? Does that mean if I lose 1 out of 2 Rinnegans I would still have the powers and capabilities as someone with 2?

That is correct. --Ref3rence (talk) 06:28, 7 January 2021 (MST)

It says in the Rinnegan Manifestation Boon that you can keep your MS active indefinitely, but it doesn’t say anything about the whole gradual blindness issue in using MS. What would happen to the Rinnegan if you go blind from using MS?

Thanks for catching that, it was a carryover from when MS was a maintainable effect. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:09, 30 January 2021 (MST)

Question, it says that the gradual blindness will reset to 0 if you gain the Rinnegan Manifestation Boon. Does that mean that you can use MS abilities similar to EMS or does it just resets the gradual blindness? (And blindness overall as seen by Madara gaining his vision back after using Izanagi)

You completely regain your sight when you gain the boon. This does not grant an EMS-like ability to ignore blindness. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:59, 31 January 2021 (MST)

Let’s say I get the Uzumaki Clan Boon and the Perfected Hashirama Cells Boon, what would be the maximum levels of exhaustion,gradual blindness,deafness,etc?

With both boons, a player would be able to have a total of 24 levels of exhaustion and up to 100 levels of gradual blindness, deafness, and numbness. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:59, 31 January 2021 (MST)

May I ask where does the “Disorientation” MS ability base off since I couldn’t find anything that’s related to it

I believe the “Disorientation” MS ability was created by one of our fellow editors. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:59, 31 January 2021 (MST)

I noticed how I didn’t fully clarify my question last time, so Ima just repeat it. What will happen to your Rinnegan (Via Rinnegan Manifestation Boon) if you go blind from using MS while you already have the Rinnegan? Would you be be unable to switch dojutsus or would your eyes go blind overall?

The effects of any form of blindness carry over regardless of which dojutsu you are using, but you would still be able to switch between them and use them. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:06, 1 February 2021 (MST)

In the jutsu requirements for Liger Bomb in the Unique Lightning Jutsu column it says you need “Lightning Cloak” does it mean Lightning Chakra Mode? Cuz I can’t find anything else that relates to it

Sorry I overlooked it

Lightning cloak is the Lightning Style jutsu you unlock at 12th level by default. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:06, 1 February 2021 (MST)

Hey, this has been roaming around my brain for a while and it is about the Puppet Master. If a character is controlling their puppets, are they still able to use jutsu while controlling the puppets or do they have to stop controlling the puppets to use jutsu.

Say is it possible to activate the seals like the explosive seals by throwing them at the enemy or do they have to be placed down on a surface?

Explosive seals can be placed on any surface, including the surface of a weapon. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2021 (MST)

How long does Ten-Tails Coffin Seal last? Is it until I stop touching or indefinite?

It lasts until you are disconnected from it. Hopefully the recent revision helps. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2021 (MST)

Is it possible to have both Taijutsu and Basic Ninjutsu at the same time? I mean if you choose Basic Ninjutsu at level 2, can you choose Taijutsu at a later point?

Both Taijutsu and Basic Ninjutsu can be taken like any other chakra nature. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2021 (MST)

In Hydrification Jutsu, do you have to wait for the 1 minute timer to switch back? Or can you just switch back and forth at will?

As stated in the jutsu, you can "transform into or out of a liquid form at will once per turn" for 1 minute. The last segment of the description is just to keep players from being stuck in liquid form at the end of the jutsu's duration. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:22, 6 February 2021 (MST)

I just realized something about the Puppet Master Subclass. So when you are controlling one puppet and you use your action to control it, could you be able to use that single puppet again in the same turn with a bonus action?

I guess you could, but there's really no reason to. I realized that chakra threads was very vaguely written, hopefully the newest revision makes this more obvious. --Ref3rence (talk) 21:58, 7 February 2021 (MST)

If you get the Baryon Mode Boon and you’re Reibi’s (Zero Tails) jinchuriki would you just get 0 extra hands?

That is correct. --Ref3rence (talk) 21:58, 7 February 2021 (MST)

Can you use Sage Art on Seals?

I don't see why not. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:27, 9 February 2021 (MST)

So I'm guessing that with the update on the chakra threads, I can only have one puppet do an attack if I control my puppets.

So when considering the damage from the seals like Explosive Seals, is the damage magical or non-magical?

Explosive seals deal fire damage, so I guess magical? 5e only differentiates between magical and non-magical when it comes to bludgeoning, slashing, and piercing damage, so any other damage type is effectively magical. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:37, 10 February 2021 (MST)

Hey it says that by activating the Tailed Release while in Initial Release will reset the time limit. What time limit is it talking about exactly? I can't seem to find it in the Path of The Beast.

Thanks for catching that, it's just a hold over from a previous version. I will correct that when I get the chance. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2021 (MST)

If I have Path of Permanence and gain affinity in the nature that I had it based on. Does that mean I add my unarmed damage to it's Jutsu twice?

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, that is incredibly powerful. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:15, 19 February 2021 (MST)

Yup, you're welcome.

I have another question. About Path of Specialization it says a Jutsu nature of my choice. Does that mean I gain affinity in any nature or Kekkei Genkai? Effectively being able to use it. Or just a nature or a Kekkei Genkai that I know?

The intent is that it is a nature you already know, I will rectify this shortly. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:02, 21 February 2021 (MST)

And also how is Unique Justu acquired?

Unique jutsu can be acquired by 1 of 3 ways: by using the non-linear jutsu rules, by being granted by a DM as a reward, or by certain other features. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:02, 21 February 2021 (MST)

I had noticed that in the Beyond 20th level table that the unarmed damage column had 5d4 at level 23, but the damage was reduced to 4d4 after that. Is the damage after level 23 meant to be 5d4 or is the 5d4 a typo?

The unarmed die was the last thing to do in making the table, but I've been considering reducing it to normal monk progression to keep this class from just being a better monk, and I really don't want to have to fill out 40 entries in a column twice. --Ref3rence (talk) 08:38, 22 February 2021 (MST)

Would C0-C4 need the “Iwagakure Kinjutsu Epic Boon to cast seeing as how Deidara uses nothing but his own clay for it? Especially C0 since he had to unstitch a mouth on his chest that is presumably from the Iwagakure Kinjutsu

I had considered that initially, but since other natures can be transformed from chakra straight into matter I figured that the Iwagakure Kinjutsu simply makes the process easier and less taxing/more effective, rather than being a basic necessity. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:47, 23 February 2021 (MST)

Is it possible to have more than 2 MS abilities without having more eyes? I am thinking of making Itachi and the dude has like a thousand.

I wouldn't way a thousand, he only has 4. At the moment the only way to achieve this is EMS, but I may add a Mangekyou Master boon that allows you to pick an additional 2 MS abilities. Alternatively, I guess I could fanon my way into saying that Itachi's disease somehow allowed him to better use his Mangekyou in order to make it a feat with some drawbacks, but I'll have to think about it. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:47, 23 February 2021 (MST)

Ooooh! Sounds nice! If you need a second opinion in anything, I'd love to help. And you got me curious, so I looked into it. It's actually the other way around. Itachi suffered mentally so much, that he got more mangekyo powers, but because his body couldn't handle it, he fell ill. But it's gonna need some balancing, since EMS exists. Anyway, I'll keep my eyes out in case you want some help. --FrickyDiBoop(Talk) 15:17, 23 February 2021 (MST)

How does the non-linear jutsu math work out? I tried mathing that out a few times, but I can't reach 34... I always reach 33.

I see the issue. It was intended that you gain 19 from the standard 1/level (starting at 2nd) but was written to reduce it to 18 (past 2nd). --Ref3rence (talk) 09:47, 23 February 2021 (MST)

I wanted to say I've been a fan of your work for a while and am loving the revisions, but can I get a simpliler explenation for how the ten tailed roll works? I'm confused. Is it an indevidual roll or a collective roll? Less than or greater than (You may have gotten your symbols mixed up) the roll requirement?

In the future, please post on the main talk page, as this page is an archive of posts from the main page. You make 1 saving throw for each ability listed (Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma). Depending on your roll for each individual saving throw, you gain various effects. If you roll above the previous tier and below the listed number of the tier (less than is used appropriately), you gain the listed effect. For instance, if you roll a 14, you do not die instantly but lose access to one type of path. Let me know if anything is not clarified.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:45, 8 March 2021 (MST)

Thanks. I'll remove the extra area. I didn't mean for that to happen.

What differentiates the normal Path of Hatred “Genjutsu” ability to its unique Jutsu “Ephemeral”

First of all, it doesn't require the target to look at the user. It only requires the user to touch the chosen target. And then, the target rolls the saving throw with disadvantage. --FrickyDiBoop(talk) 04:01, 25 February 2021 (MST)

I have a question. Does Truesight see through the "disguise" feature of Path of Mutation? If yes then I think it might be underpowered to be gained at level 10 as most dojutsu and sage mode have truesight at level 3

And also about path of specialization when I cast my signature jutsu can I choose to forego the improved Technique feature? Otherwise it makes a heavy drawback to characters with low save DCs as their signature jutsu's damage will be almost always halved due to the saving throw P@uL (talk)

As you can not be distinguished "by chakra sense", which is the source of dojutsu/Sage Mode truesight, they would not be able to distinguish. The saving throw to reduce damage from Improved Technique only applies to the additional damage, not the jutsu's base damage. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:24, 25 February 2021 (MST)

Does chakra exhaustion work exactly like normal exhaustion? In regards to needing to have multiple long rests to get rid of the exhaustion. Because since the moment I laid my eyes on that optional rule, I thought that in the next rest, once you have a positive number in your chakra points, all the exhaustion is gone. Mainly since it would be so annoying to have time skips left and right just so our characters won't have any detrimental effects before the next mission. And I mean only through rest. Indra's Susanoo and Cursed Mark chakra can't get rid of exhaustion.

While I couldn't write it in a satisfying way, the intent was for regaining chakra points to reduce your exhaustion. With this in mind, while Cursed Mark certainly shouldn't be able to reduce chakra exhaustion for the same reason red chakra can't, I don't see why Indra Susano'o shouldn't be able to. Exhaustion can also be cured by chakra pills (or greater restoration if you aren't doing a shinobi only campaign), so it's not exactly your only option. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2021 (MST)

Regarding Cooperation Jutsu, if the requirement to perform the jutsu has to be achieved by either one or both and they perform a kekkei genial jutsu, does that mean that in order to do it one of them would have to choose that kekkei genkai? Effectively disabling them from having other kekkei genkais.

I gotta be real, the Cooperation Jutsu variant rule was written a while ago and I'm still not positive I like how any of it is worded, so I full on might completely rewrite it. The intent was to allow writing it that way was to allow things like Scorch Style: Nimbus Tempest, in which neither Naruto nor Sasuke knew Scorch Style, but could individually use Fire and Wind Style. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2021 (MST)

And what happens in a case that an Uchiha fulfills the requirement of the mangekyo, which is witnessing the death of a close entity, but they have yet to reach level 15?

It would be a similar effect to Sasuke unlocking his first tomoe, they would technically "have" Mangekyo, but the repressed trauma would keep them from using it. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2021 (MST)

Question about the cursed mark: it says if I can use black chakra as if it were normal chakra but if I do so I have to spend an equal amount of normal chakra.. so in the case that my normal chakra is lower than my black chakra. Or my chakra is 0, or -0 or i don't have any chakra remaining at all. How will that be managed? Or is that all just meant to if I use black chakra and normal chakra at the same time?

That piece of wording was intended to only apply to using black chakra and normal chakra on the same jutsu. --Ref3rence (talk) 09:51, 27 February 2021 (MST)

Is there a way for a third party to unseal a seal? I looked around the page and didn't find it... -- FrickyDiBoop (talk) 13:31, 28 February 2021 (MST)

I noticed Path of Beast, Path of Hatred, and the path of exalted now include level 22, 27 and 30 milestones. Is this intentional? And if so, what made you desire this change? Sykon (talk) 07:50, 2 March 2021 (MST)

These features have been on the page for ages, but their place has always been pretty nebulous as Beyond 20th Level also grants boons. This way, path features are with path features, their place is better clarified within the extended ruleset, and honestly they're just easier to find and edit. As detailed under the Ninja Paths header, if you aren't using that variant rule they are simply epic boons with a 20th level requirement.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:51, 2 March 2021 (MST)

Seems like my question was glanced over. I think you just didn't notice it, so I'll ask again. Is there a way for a third party to unseal a seal? I looked around the page and didn't find anything about it. Maybe I just missed it or something. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 11:54, 2 March 2021 (MST)

Sorry about that! At the moment there is not, but I will add one in the near future.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:30, 2 March 2021 (MST)

My bad, it appears we both overlooked it. Rules for removing and highjacking a seal is listed immediately under the unique jutsu header.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:41, 2 March 2021 (MST)

What? Where? I can't see it. Maybe I'm blind.... --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 19:59, 2 March 2021 (MST)

My bad, immediately under the REGULAR BASIC NINJUTSU header, "Seals can be created on any surface, however special material (such as Chakra Tags and Elemental Ink) will have added benefits. They can be removed with a successful Strength saving throw and can be hijacked by any Chakra user with a successful Intelligence (Arcana) check contested by your spell save DC, which is increased by 1 for every additional chakra point spent on the seals." Apparently I couldn't type at noon. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:04, 2 March 2021 (MST)

Tsuchigumo Style: Forbidden Life Technique Release: Creation of Heaven and Earth Cost: 10 Chakra The user forms a seal on another creature it can touch. Once per hour, that creature gains 2 chakra points, even if they can not use chakra. This can extend above a creature’s chakra point maximum, and they are not lost at the end of a long rest. This chakra can’t be used by the creature it is sealed in, but the creature that used this jutsu may cast jutsu from the seal using both the sealed creature’s chakra and their own.

Can this jutsu be done on yourself? Cuz it does fall into touch category, but maybe RAI it's a no-go. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 07:41, 3 March 2021 (MST)

This jutsu can not be used on the caster.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:25, 3 March 2021 (MST)

Would the Painkiller feat enable you to bypass Baryon Mode’s permanent HP decrease (At least for a few turns + Con mod)?.

Painkiller only decreases hit point reduction, not maximum hit points, so while it is still useful for bypassing its current hit point reduction, the answer is no. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2021 (MST)

It says that you had some sort of secondary subclass (Dojutsu implants,Kama,Soul Containment,etc) you can only reach it’s 10th or 15th level feature unless you have some feats, but can you use Advanced Training to simply get the next and final features?

I hadn't considered that when making Advanced Training, but I suppose so. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2021 (MST)

Path of Totality Manipulation, does it require an action or? If it's a free action it's unstoppable. If it's a bonus action it's manageable.

Also if you have affinity in basic do you add your unarmed damage to shadow clone attacks? Sykon (talk) 11:24, 5 March 2021 (MST)

Manipulation's rules were vague, so I have clarified it as well as giving it a sleight nerf. Affinity only increases damage that a jutsu deals when cast, not damage a jutsu's construct deals, so shadow clones and summons do not deal additional unarmed die damage.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2021 (MST)

The Tenseigan can only be achieved through implantation. So is it safe to assume that the Tenseigan doesn't follow implantation rules? And can Kirin be used while being in a closed room, unable at all to see the sky? I assume it is because the jutsu doesn't say otherwise, but I like to make sure. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 13:12, 5 March 2021 (MST)

The Tenseigan still follows implantation rules if you gain it after 3rd level, because while naturally gaining the Tenseigan at 3rd level isn't justified in canon, either of the previous being false makes it kinda weird balance-wise. As for Kirin, it does say that the lightning comes from the cloud, so while you should be able to use it indoors, it should be harder, which I will try to make clearer. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:20, 5 March 2021 (MST)

How does Masterful Chakra Control works exactly? The ability of lowering chakra cost, to be specific. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 18:15, 6 March 2021 (MST)

You decrease the amount of chakra you need to spend by your Intelligence modifier to a minimum of 1. --Ref3rence (talk) 07:46, 7 March 2021 (MST)

So how exactly does Red Chakra work? Does it mean that 1 red Chakra is enough to use a single Jutsu or do you need to have an amount of chakra equal to the jutsu’s chakra cost?

As described in the feature, red chakra can be spent in the same way as normal chakra.--Ref3rence (talk) 07:46, 7 March 2021 (MST)

So if a Jutsu needs 5 Chakra, I need 5 red chakra to do it? Alright, thanks for the clarification.

There’s been a things I’ve been wondering about Path of Hatred lately so here are my questions,

Wouldn’t each eye’s gradual blindness be separate except maybe for using Susanno? For example, I use my right eye more often to use Tsukuyomi but rarely use my left eye to cast Kotoamatsakumi so wouldn’t that mean only the right eye’s vision would deteriorate? (Idk how to deal with this since the Gradual Blindness variant rule isn’t made for this)

Technically each eye would go blind individually, but defining that mechanically would be an absolute nightmare, and using such mechanics even more so.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2021 (MST)

I remember seeing in an archive that you can take the same MS ability multiple times, but what benefit does it give you if you chose the same ability 2 or more times since CBS was the only one that clarifies this? (Basically what do you get from having multiple Amaterasus,Tsukuyomi,Totsuka Blade,Yata Mirror,etc)

Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Yata Mirror wouldn't benefit from being taken multiple times. The main ones that benefit are Telekinesis (each take allowing the user to manipulate an additional 100 pounds), Totsuka Blade (I've been meaning to rewrite it to be more inclusive to all Susanoo weapons, thus taking it twice would apply it to both Susanoo weapons), and Kotoamatsukami (with each take granting an additional use).--Ref3rence (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2021 (MST)

Would we ever get a Partial Susanno feat/boon (Like how Sasuke and Madara summon ribcages and limbs)?

A partial susanoo feat is in the works.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2021 (MST)

If you permanently lose a path, like with baryon mode or with your extracting your jinchuriki, can you gain another path in it's place? And can path of the cursed be permanently lost, like with Sasuke when itachi freed him from it?

Second question: with path of the puppet master it says "you can create threads of chakra" but doesn't clarify if it requires an action, does that mean it's a free action? P@uL (talk)

Hopefully the most recent edit has clarified these. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:47, 8 March 2021 (MST)

If you end Baryon Mode, what would be the PC and the Tailed Beast’s maximum HP since it only says PC would lose 20 current and maximum HP but it never said what it would mean for its tailed beast or even how to divide the HP back after ending it

Question about Basic Ketsuryūgan, it says if I "make" an unarmed attack, I can expend a chakra point to force them a Con save and make them stunned on a failure. The "make" has me a bit confused, do I need to actually "hit" them to force them the save or can I do that even if I missed? I have the same question about Byakugan's heavy palm. And a similiar question about lightning cloak, do they take the damage just if they hit me, or if they attempt to do so?

And does my curse mark stay active even if I'm knocked unconscious? That would spell death, since it'll keep reducing maximum hp until the user reaches 0 and they can't do anything about it. P@uL (talk)

Does the loss of HP from Path of Youth abilities considered damage? Can Painkiller reduce it? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 05:56, 11 March 2021 (MST)

Hopefully the above have been edited into clarity.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2021 (MST)

Can the cell activation Jutsu take away the curse mark feature? Is it counted as a curse for cell activation and greater restoration? P@uL (talk)

Mechanically, cursed mark is a class feature, not a curse, so it would not be affected.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2021 (MST)

Is there a shark-shifting-thingy for Hoshigaki people? Like Kisame can do. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 13:29, 12 March 2021 (MST)

Assuming you're talking about the form he used against Guy, Kisame's shark form was a function of Samehada, not necessarily the Hoshigaki clan. I might add it some time in the future, but I wouldn't count on it since there really isn't a huge difference between that and using Samehada as a Hoshigaki. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:33, 12 March 2021 (MST)

My earlier message about the curse mark wasn't answered so in case you didn't see it. Does the curse mark stay active even when the user is unconscious?

For people who want to break out of Edo Tensei, if it was cast not in initiative (so it's cost is halved), does the amount of chakra to break out counts as 7/8 or still 15? Disregarding the doubling for people that don't know the jutsu. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 05:42, 13 March 2021 (MST)

They weren't unanswered, just one of the few that were answered in a main page edit rather than on this page. All path features that require upkeep end if you become unconscious as stated under the Paths header, and Edo Tensei is no longer affected by out-of-initiative cost reduction.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:26, 13 March 2021 (MST)

Would a jutsu count more as a spell or a cantrip because your only able to cast 1 spell per turn but a infinite amount of cantrips as long as you have enough extra attacks or bonus actions?

I have no idea where you're getting that you can cast an infinite amount of cantrips, or that you can only cast 1 spell per turn. Spell level doesn't determine how you can cast it at all, casting time does, and almost every official cantrip has a casting time of 1 action. This is also why cantrips that deal damage deal more damage based on character level, if they didn't DPR casters wouldn't be able to keep up with DPR non-casters with multiattack. --Ref3rence (talk) 12:59, 15 March 2021 (MDT)

Just a few Path of the Puppet Master questions:

Can you place seals on puppets?

Can a puppet be used as a vessel for Creation of Heaven and Earth and Fury?

Can puppets (specifically Human Puppets) cast jutsus?

The curse Mark's 15th level feature contains "You gain one additional Diversified Second Stage effect." When I do that, is it always the same effect that I chose the first time everytime? Or do I choose whichever effect I want whenever I use that? P@uL (talk)

Hopefully the most recent edit has put these to rest. As a general rule, seals can be placed on literally anything. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:11, 16 March 2021 (MDT)

Where does one come across a White Kama? Is this planned for future updates? Or is this just up to the DM? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 16:11, 16 March 2021 (MDT)

Honestly, there's not any real difference between Kama and White Kama in play beyond how the player role plays it, so I don't currently have any plans to add it, though this may change. It's only stated in Ōtsutsuki Demi-God for the sake of canon accuracy and flavor text. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2021 (MDT)

Since you can cast jutsus with puppets, does that mean feats like Multi-Shadow Clone Jutsu Master work on puppets?

Controlled puppets can cast clone jutsu, but as the page was this would be massively overpowered as it was. Hopefully this has been balanced. --Ref3rence (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2021 (MDT)

What would be the stats of the 4th and 5th puppets in “Master Strategist” as shown in the newest revision for Path of the Puppet Master?

Master strategist does not grant additional puppets, only the ability to control two additional puppets. It's really only a good option if you took human puppeteer or have a very generous DM.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

If someone gets a kekkei genkai, they can also use the two natures that construct it. But my friends think that being granted the ability to take jutsus from those lists grant them with the extra jutsu you get from gaining a new nature. Please tell me this is wrong. It just feels so unbalanced for me, since not only do their get the ability to use jutsus from multiple natures, but they can also take up more jutsus than any other ninja would. I get that Kekkei Genkai is cool and unique and all, but the system can't just favor someone based on a single dice roll. That's basically my case lol. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 15:41, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

I'm going to be completely honest, if you're worried about balance DO NOT use the Random Natures variant rule, it is easily the most busted variant rule on this page. Every time I've even considered using it, I've also considered making a variant rule to restrict component natures, most often by requiring a player to unlock them, but there should definitely be some sort of benefit for rolling well if you use it in the first place. What your friends say is correct, and there's really no good way around it without throwing out nature rolls as a whole.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

on page 202 of the PHB under the bonus action heading of the casting time section: If you cast a spell with your bonus action, You can't cast another spell during the same turn, except for a cantrip with a casting time of I action. So if i were to use the kamui ability intangible witch costs a bonus action what jutsu would i be able to use after if any. Hopefully this helps i kinda worded it weirdly last time.

Jutsu are similar to spells, but are not spells. If a jutsu can be cast as an action or bonus action, the only limitation is if you have a usable action or bonus action.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

Also in the Beyond 20th Level chart i noticed that at level 37 the martial arts goes from 3d6 (average of 10.5) to 2d10 (average of 11) barely increasing the average damage and decreasing the minimum damage from 3 to 2 making it less of a bonus and more of a disadvantage.

While what you say is technically true, 4d6 is a jump of 4, when the typical increase is +1, making +0.5 a better alternative. As far as I can tell, there's really no better alternative, though you're welcome to suggest anything I might have missed.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2021 (MDT)

What if you replace the 3d6 with 2d10, the 2d10 with 2d12, and the 2d12 with 3d8 then all the jumps would be +1 except for the last one that would only give a +0.5 to the average as well as increasing the minimum damage from 2 to 3.

While I still kinda take issue with that, I suppose it's just as big of a jump as 1d12 to 2d8, it should make more sense now.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:57, 19 March 2021 (MDT)

How do clones and subclass features like dojutsu, sage mode, curse mark, and the path of beast releases work? There's been a lot of arguments about this in our campaign that clones became a pain to even use, so I've decided not to use them until everything is clarified. So please clarify shadow clone jutsu. Including if effects but not conditions, like weighted boulder carry over. And also when you answer the subclass feature question. If you had any of those features activated and made a clone, will they automatically be activated for them? P@uL (talk) 08:39, 19 March 2021 (MDT)

What happens if a clone uses Gedo Art of Rinne Rebirth? This question kind of seconds the dude above me with the confusion.

Effects carry over when clones are dispelled, including Rinne Rebirth's instant death, and any features effecting you are carried over to any clones.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:57, 19 March 2021 (MDT)

Alright but what about extra chakra reserves, like black chakra and senjutsu? Do they get those as well? P@uL (talk) 10:42, 19 March 2021 (MDT)

If the chakra you spent was black chakra or senjutsu, the chakra they have is black chakra or senjutsu.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:05, 19 March 2021 (MDT)

Would jutsus like “Truth Seeking Execution” count as an extra feature when using Advanced Training or does it apart of getting the 20th Level Feature as a whole?

As stated within Mastered Truth-Seeking Orbs "You also gain the Truth-Seeking Orb Execution jutsu". Generally, features with smaller headers are part of the feature they are immediately under, such as Onyx Jutsu, Unison Jutsu, and the Rinnegan's various paths.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:25, 20 March 2021 (MDT)

Could you add more than 1 Truth Seeking Orb to a jutsu?

Technically yes, though not probably not in the way you're thinking. Truth-Seeking Jutsu has been revised to be more clear.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:25, 20 March 2021 (MDT)

Wouldn’t Butterfly Mode be counted as a Boon/Beyond 20th Level Feature for Path of the Body?

While I don't like the idea of reducing the number of available unique jutsu, that's a fair point. Changes will be made accordingly.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (MDT)

Does the restrained condition make you incapable of casting Jutsu? P@uL (talk) 06:40, 22 March 2021 (MDT)

Being restrained doesn't change whether or not you can cast jutsu unless the method is flavored in a way that would the ability to weave hand signs.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (MDT)

And does the bonus damage from Affinity and path of permanence include the modifiers? Since it says unarmed damage, I want to be sure whether it's just the dice or the modifiers too. P@uL (talk) 08:17, 22 March 2021 (MDT)

One should only add dice. Hopefully this has been clarified.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (MDT)

I have a small question, would it make sense that someone with Hashirama Cells, conly has the cells living inside of them with the help of chakra, so that if you get cut and bleed you aren't giving the world access to the cells, because they are supposed to be this super rare and powerful thing. So what I guess what im asking, is do the cells only survive as long as there is a chakra sorce for them?

There's really no evidence for what you're saying, but I also don't see the problem. In canon, 3 groups are shown being able to create and implant Hashirama cells: Orochimaru (the most scientifically advanced shinobi in the world), the post-war Hidden Leaf Village (the village with the biggest number and most skilled medical nin in the world), and Madara (who could only do so through the Gedo Mazo), so you're really not giving the world anything. Even then, I doubt a wound would offer enough material to be useful, and any blood would soak into pretty much any material, making it completely useless.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:42, 24 March 2021 (MDT)

If I use Storm Style Unique Jutsu: Jewel of the Dragon Head, and I use Kirin. Does the storm dissipate? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 20:26, 24 March 2021 (MDT)

Yes. Kirin dispels any storms it is used under.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:12, 25 March 2021 (MDT)

In the Multi Summoning Jutsu Master Feat, it says that you can summon any number of creatures in one turn but doesn’t the whole “collective CR” part already undermine the feat? Or will you revise the feat regarding the CR rules?

The original limit was incredibly restrictive, especially given Summoning Jutsu's already high cost. Hopefully the most recent edit not only makes MSJM usable, but makes this class less SAD.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:12, 25 March 2021 (MDT)

Can you still benefit from the effects of Human Bullet Tank and Total Expansion along with Butterfly mode?

I don't see why not.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2021 (MDT)

It says in Advanced Training that we can lear 3 jutsus from a chakra nature, does that count Unique Jutsu as well?

Yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2021 (MDT)

On the Boons/Jutsus that require Sage Mode, I'm presuming they mean Perfected Sage Mode? Or can you still have those features with Imperfect Sage Mode?

Boons and jutsu like Six/Outer Paths Sage Mode, Rasenshuriken, and Sinshu Senju only require Partial Sage Mode.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2021 (MDT)

Will there be anything in the Path of The Exalted column regarding the use of the Gedo Mazo? Or do you just gain complete control over it as long as you have a Rinnegan?

As long as a creature has a Rinnegan, they can control the Gedo Mazo.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:43, 28 March 2021 (MDT)

I think Shade Style: Chimera Technique is slightly overpowered. Gaining 3 features is pretty unbalanced. I think if you make it so they can take only 1 feature, it'll be better. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 05:18, 7 March 2021 (MST)

Chimera Technique was intended to be an analogue to replication, specifically with the major downsides that it only lasts for 1 minute and costs about half of a 20th level character's chakra.--Ref3rence (talk) 07:52, 7 March 2021 (MST)

When it says increase maximum hit dice for alternate chakra nature options, does that mean it would go from a D8 to a D10 or would it mean you’ll have 2 extra D8s for your hit dice?y

A player would go from having 1d8 to 3d8.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:52, 3 April 2021 (MDT)

As I said in the edit description, love the new jutsu, but I do have a few questions:

• Vacuum Sphere only targets one creature, but its range is a line implying that you make an attack roll against every creature in the line.
• Generally, "X Style" is implied, so we only really add them for things like shadow clone variations, as it is implied by being listed under X Style Jutsu.
• Whirlwind Fist was occluded because there's already a Whirlwind Fist on-page.

I'll say it again Hit, the jutsu you added are downright excellent, and I look forward to anything you plan to add in the future. --Ref3rence (talk) 10:07, 3 April 2021 (MDT)

In Path Of Succession’s 60% and 80% column, it says you can break your horn with a Strength roll but I see no point in trying to “severe you’re connection to the Otsutsuki” or is it supposed to work the same way as Path Of the Beast where your Tailed Beast controls you?

As stated at the top of 20% Extraction, any Otsutsuki form lasts until you can't maintain it, with breaking the horn being the only way to end it at will.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:24, 3 April 2021 (MDT)

A change in the hit dice maximum/gaining additional hit dice makes for a direct change in hit points? Or are there exclusions? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2021 (MDT)

I couldn't figure out a good way to word it, but the additional hit dice are meant to function the same way as those gained from regular class leveling hit dice, increasing your maximum hit points and what not.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:43, 3 April 2021 (MDT)

There are many typos on Chidori Spear that make it hard to understand and could use a bit of clarification, would appreciate it if that could be fixed, thanks, and Happy Easter!

Should be fixed, happy Easter!--Ref3rence (talk) 09:27, 4 April 2021 (MDT)

How does Exhaustion levels work for Possession in Path of Mutation? And what will also happen if the any of the creatures (Host or the PoM Shinobi) die while still possessed?

Hopefully the recent edit has clarified this.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:34, 5 April 2021 (MDT)

Would Anti Magic areas prevent you from using jutsus?

Yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:20, 6 April 2021 (MDT)

Is Tsuchigumo Style: Forbidden Life Technique Release: Creation of Heaven and Earth, meant to be so strong?

It's intended to be strong, but I can see why it may be too strong. I will be revising shortly.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:20, 6 April 2021 (MDT)

I happened to look into the Tsuchigumo seal thing, for RP reasons, and I got to discover that the original user actually had sealed it on himself and even used Fury without dying. Maybe I interpreted something wrong, or maybe you just want to keep it like this for the sake of balance. Just thought that I'd let you know... For some reason. Anyway, now you know lol.

Also, where did Impure world reincarnation go? Am I blind? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 02:39, 7 April 2021 (MDT)

Edo Tensei was added to the Yin Yang column which would make sense I guess --Bobert (talk) 06:31, 7 April 2021 (MDT)

I'm unclear if both the Tsuchigumo Style and Edo Tensei posts were both from Fricky, so I'm putting this here. I'd be interested in where you "discovered" this, since the canonical original user, En no Gyōja, only ever used Fury himself, sealing Tsuchigumo Style in his grandaughter Hotaru. Tsuchigumo Style was nerfed because initially it was so absurdly powerful that having it was essentially an insta-win/never die. Also, nothing says you can't use Fury without dying, the user just needs a lot of chakra (i.e. from using Tsuchigumo Style). ---Ref3rence (talk) 09:41, 7 April 2021 (MDT)

Do all jutsu deal magic damage?

Hopefully this has been clarified on-page, but yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:41, 7 April 2021 (MDT)

Does affinity apply to non nature jutsus such as Shadow Possession,Fuinjutsu,Path-Exclusive Jutsus,etc

Hopefully this has been clarified on-page, but yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2021 (MDT)

Can you choose which damage dice to reroll with the Jogan Boon, for example, I use rasengan and rolled 10 on some of my dice but 1 on the others?

You can not. You either reroll all dice included in the roll, or you do not.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2021 (MDT)

Would having only each Jogan count as 1 number lower for your crits? for example, if I have 4 Jogans from Dojutsu Acceptant Biology my crit range would be 16-20?

I think I've answered this before, not that I'm complaining, but I've intentionally left it ambiguous for the sake of DM balance. I would personally say that you are right, but that the idea is not applicable since the Jogan is rare enough to the point that we've only seen one in the entire series, and it's a boon so the DM decides when and if it shows up, but I can also easily see it getting out of hand with a less-experienced DM. Hopefully I will be able to make this more solid once we (hopefully) get more Jogan content.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2021 (MDT)

Does Mysterious Peacock Method: Chakra Predation, need any chakra to cast?

Can you use Mysterious Peacock Method: Wings multiple times?

Initially Chakra Predation did not, but it has been rebalanced based on other chakra absorbing jutsu. Wings has been modified to require concentration, however, a creature can benefit from multiple uses of it from different creatures.--09:10, 10 April 2021 (MDT)

How long does Body Flicker last and can it stack?

Hopefully this has been clarified.--Ref3rence (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2021 (MDT)

Does Bound Element give you a new Chakra nature or gives affinity to one you already know?

yes,--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plywood tank (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.

Does Fuinjutsu, Shadow Possession,Taijutsu,etc count as chakra natures for Bound Element?

yes.--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Plywood tank (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.

Does Chimera Technique make the target unable to use the features/jutsus absorbed for the duration?

I don't see any indication why it would, so no.--Ref3rence (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2021 (MDT)

What can we do if we can’t learn anymore jutsus, for example, Someone takes the Lee Clan Boon and doesn’t have the prerequisites to get Absorption,Shadow or Barrier Nin and has already learned every Taijutsu.

At the moment there is not any particular ruling that feels both satisfying and balanced. In the future I hope to have 75 jutsu for each nature, but that's bound to take some time. Until then, feel free to suggest anything.--Ref3rence (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2021 (MDT)

This might be a bit trivial, but if I apply Sage Art to Palm Bottom would that mean there’s Senjutsu inside the target and would turn them to stone if they’re not trained to handle it?

Palm Bottom deals damage without granting the target chakra, so no.--Ref3rence (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2021 (MDT)

If PCs roll a Kekkai Genkai, do they also gain access to the other 2 natures that compose it?

As clarified under the Chakra header, you do not.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Does difficult terrain affect Shadow Possession or any of it’s other jutsus?

The only thing that affects Shadow Imitation Technique is light level.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Wasn't sure where to ask this lol, but if I were to come across small things like misspellings/typos, is it ok to fix them? Or should we always request for someone to edit them out? --Jaydon105 (talk)

Go right ahead, although current events may lead to the occasional edit conflict lol.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:36, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Awesome, Thanks.--Jaydon105 (talk)

How many creatures are able to occupy a Complete-Body Susanoo, and if you were to teleport using something like Flying Raijin or Amenotejikara while they were occupying your space could you bring all of them or only 1?--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:04, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

An armored susanoo is Huge (15 ft. x 15 ft.), and since each creature takes up 5 ft., an armored susanoo has a capacity for 9 creatures including yourself. With 2 instances of Complete-Body Susanoo, your size category increases by 1 to Gargantuan (20 ft. x 20 ft.), resulting in 16 creatures. However, there is a blind spot for movement, which I will correct shortly.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:13, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Ok awesome, and if you teleport using one of the previous jutsu as a reaction to an attack, would the attacker lose their attack or would they still be able to use that attack on a different target?--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:22, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

They have already made the attack, so they would not be able to make some sort of "free attack", though a DM may decide that another creature is close enough (such as being behind them) that an attack would be justified, most likely with disadvantage.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:43, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Would Shadow Possession and Mind Body Switch Jutsu work on incapacitated creatures or even corpses?

Incapacitated creatures don't cause any problems. As for dead creatures, that ultimately comes down to whether or not corpses count as creatures. A quick google search finds a couple of WotC responses that point to object, so these jutsu could not target them.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:39, 12 April 2021 (MDT)

Do the effects of Mysterious Peacock method still carry on when you're brought down? Or do you lose the 10 Chakra

Thanks for catching that blindspot, hopefully it has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:11, 14 April 2021 (MDT)

In *Arriving Life: Thousand-Armed Preservation* does it says "they may not take actions" is it the user or the ones attacking effected?

This jutsu does not affect other creatures, only making attack rolls miss the user, so the user loses the ability to take actions.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:11, 14 April 2021 (MDT)

If someone used Sukunahikona on an object that contains a creature in it (such as buildings that 20ft or less) what will happen to the creature?

Once again, thanks for catching that blind spot!--Ref3rence (talk) 21:11, 14 April 2021 (MDT)

Since it’s clarified what Senjutsu Chakra would do to a creature, would anything happen if a creature received Black,Red,Specialized,etc Chakra from Chakra Transfer?

I'm currently working in a way to implement that, with the general idea being that X chakra forces you into the first transformation granted by the path, while 2X+ causes you to take damage. The only difference between normal and specialized chakra is that it can only be spent on jutsu of a certain nature, so that would carry over to any creatures to gain said chakra. That being said, this class is currently on the back-burner for me as I work on Berserk (5e Campaign Setting), so I personally won't be implementing this any time soon. Any registered user is welcome to.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:16, 16 April 2021 (MDT)

do you need to use chidori first to use chidori senbon?

Chidori is listed as a requirement.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:16, 16 April 2021 (MDT)

i know it is a requirement, but i was wondering if we had to cast chidori because of the wording of "as a bonus action, you transform your chidori..." i was wondering if we just cast chidori senbon regularly or if i have to use chidori then chidori senbon in the same turn. -plywood tank

You do not, otherwise it would have wording along the lines of "on the same turn that you use chidori". The point in question is only there for flavor.--Ref3rence (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2021 (MDT)

if you have sage mode or another sort of power, would that negate turning into a tree from that specific power if you were the path of mutation?

It would not; you would become the source of natural energy, thus turning you into a tree.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:16, 16 April 2021 (MDT)

Do you suffer any negatives from only having one Dojutsu? For example, if a player had two Sharingan and one was stolen would they lose anything besides their potential Mangekyo ability in that eye?--Jaydon105 (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2021 (MDT)

At the moment you do not. Perhaps an increased chakra maintenance cost would be appropriate, perhaps not, I'm not entirely sure.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2021 (MDT)

Would you still be able to use the Rinnegan,Ketsuryugan,Tenseigan and other dojutsus with the exception Sharingan, Byakugan and Manual Dojutsu if you’re blind since the other dojutsus don’t have any features that exclusively relies on sight?

Yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:15, 17 April 2021 (MDT)

Would Omoikane temporarily work on a blind creature?

No, the sight granted by Omoikane still requires sight.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:15, 17 April 2021 (MDT)

Question, Path of Adequacy, the way it is now, does it give you any jutsu from anywhere, or do you have to meet the requirements for it now?

You still have to meet the jutsu's requirements.--Ref3rence (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2021 (MDT)

So piggybacking off the question about Dojutsu from earlier, say you have a Rinnegan and a Sharingan, would you need to have your Rinnegan active to use something like say, Black Receivers?--Jaydon105 (talk) 22:36, 18 April 2021 (MDT)

If you mean you have both via Rinnegan Manifestation, your Rinnegan needs to be active for you to use its jutsu, but not maintain them, so you wouldn't be able to cast the Black Receivers jutsu, but its bonus action additional effects are available regardless. Hopefully this helps.--Ref3rence (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2021 (MDT)

If someone with the Sharingan copies a spell with Replication do they still have to provide its material components assuming they have any?--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2021 (MDT)

Yes.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:18, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

If you took Hidden Chakra for Advanced Training, can you still be forced into Initial and Tailed Release?

Yes, despite not gaining full access to the subclass, you would be forced into Initial/Tailed Release because you don't need to have access to the features to unwillingly be forced into them, a good way to think about it is like Multiclassing but for a subclass, you are essentially treated as a 3rd level user of Path of the Beast while also being a 17-20th level user of another subclass, so anything that would normally apply to someone that gained the subclass at 3rd level also applies to you.--Jaydon105 (talk) 03:42, 20 April 2021 (MDT)

Huh, alright then, I haven’t specified it but my problem was more DM-Wise anyways, I’ve just been wondering how Pseudo-Jinchuurikis (What I presume Shinobis are if they take Path of the Beast for Advanced Training) would be “forced” and be “under control”, but I’ll probably just say that they’ll instead gain the berserk variant condition and limit it to tailed release something.

I was under the assumption that you mean they had an actual tailed beast sealed into them, in which case features would definitely happen like normal, however if that’s not the case then you’d probably just have to come up with some alternative, but Ref3rence could probably give you a better ruling here.—-Jaydon105 (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2021 (MDT)

Could you use Advanced Training in order to get an alternate feature of your subclass? --Bobert (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

Absolutely, I imagine that'd be one of the primary uses.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:18, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

Would you still take damage from subclass features and jutsus when you have the Jashin Immortality Boon? Considering that none of the jutsus are “aimed at the head”

yes -plywood tank

I was wondering with the new changes with the amount of jutsu a character can have, does any jutsu you gain from a clan feat count to the limit of jutsu you can have?

No.--Jaydon105 (talk) 18:49, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

Would almighty push cancel the damage from lightning shadow clones if it was used as a reaction against one of the clones attacks. It probably should, given it can block Kirin directly but a second opinion would be appreciated. Sykon (talk) 19:47, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

I would rule it that way yeah. Also, Kirin isn't really a single target spell so you couldn't really block it with Shinra Tensei, it would be really broken if it could just block anything.--Jaydon105 (talk) 20:10, 22 April 2021 (MDT)

How long do the basic Yin technique and basic Yang technique last? P@uL (talk) 04:28, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

1 Minute.--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

is melting apparition supposed to be so broken? its a 1 chakra jutsu with the base damage of shinra tensei. Plywood tank (talk) 06:43, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

Yeah 1d6 would make more sense.--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

Does 2 Basic Ninjutsu Jutsus still count as 1? Or not anymore? I would prefer it's still like that, but I'm not sure. And our group goes by all the rule changes. P@uL (talk) 07:23, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

Yes, it's been clarified on-page. --Jaydon105 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

Yes to what exactly? Yes it's still 2 to 1? And I don't see where it's clarified

Nevermind lol I found it. Just needed a bit of looking around. P@uL (talk) 18:36, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

Also does in shadow possession jutsu can the possessed creature act as normal or do they just do what the caster is doing until they break out?

The creature mimics the casters movements, as stated in the second part of the Jutsu.--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

And second of all if the coordinated attack of shadow gathering Technique is used is Intelligence mod and affinity added to every single tendril in the attack?

P@uL (talk) 12:07, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

You add your intelligence modifier to each attack, I would say you add your affinity bonus once because it is technically only 1 attack.--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2021 (MDT)

If someone uses the Chakra Exhaustion Variant rule, can you still absorb a creature’s chakra after it hits 0? If so, can you kill a creature by exhausting all of their chakra?--Bobert (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2021 (MDT)

Yes. In canon, many instances of chakra absorption are actively painful (with Earth Prison Dome of Magnificent Nothingness being referenced as actively lethal), there's nothing in the current wording to conflict with it, and I don't see it being particularly unbalanced.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:21, 27 April 2021 (MDT)

Let’s say I had the Masterful Chakra Control and Multi Shadow Clone Master Feat, I make 3 shadow clones but the total 6 chakra cost is reduced to 1 due to Masterful Chakra Control and my INT MOD, how many chakra would each clone have?

The clones would have one chakra, the implication is that clones only have as much chakra as you initially spend to summon them.--Jaydon105 (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2021 (MDT)

Wait, so by that theory you can make about as much clones as <INT Mod when you have Masterful Chakra Control and they’d all have 1 chakra which I think is broken due to Feats also being applicable to Clones, since you could essentially create an infinite amount of clones in one turn due to clones also acting on your initiative.--Bobert (talk) 23:39, 27 April 2021 (MDT)

Confused as to what you mean, if a clone were to create another clone under this example it would be immediately dispelled, so there wouldn't be an issue, would you mind rewording your question?--Jaydon105 (talk) 00:42, 28 April 2021 (MDT)

Oof here’s an example,

- PC creates 3 shadow clones and the cost is reduced to only 6 chakra from Multi-Shadow Clone Master Feat, the cost is then reduced to 1 chakra from Masterful Chakra Control Feat which allows the user to decrease a jutsu’s cost by their INT Modifier

- As you’ve said, each Shadow Clone now has 1 Chakra and they act on PC’s initiative

- Repeatedly cast Shadow Clone jutsu through the Clones since the second a clone dispels from expending their chakra, 3 more is spawned in it’s place

So to clarify, 1 Clone with 1 Chakra = 3 Extra Clones with 1 Chakra each if they cast Shadow Clone Jutsu with the following feats, and while the clone that cast the Jutsu has been dispelled, there are now 3 extra clones with the required amount of chakra to repeat the process as well.

The number of clones varies from the PC’s INT mod of course. --Bobert (talk) 01:35, 28 April 2021 (MDT)

I tweaked the wording so that this wouldn't be an issue anymore.--Jaydon105 (talk) 09:07, 28 April 2021 (MDT)

How does Jashin Immortality’s Head Sewing work? Can a head be sewn into another non-humanoid creature’s body? Do they still keep the same physical ability scores such as STR,DEX and CON?

I’d say they’d gain the creature’s Physical scores, I don’t think they can be sewn to non-humanoid creatures though but I can probably come up with something--Bobert (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2021 (MDT)

Mangekyō Sharingan jutsu, you must make a DC 16 Constitution saving throw. On a failure, your eyes begin to bleed, you take 3d4 psychic damage, and you gain 1 level of gradual blindness. For every other failure of this saving throw, you gain 1 level of exhaustion. The DC on this saving throw increases by 1 every time you use a Mangekyō ability.

it says the DC increases by 1 every time a mangekyo ability is used, does the DC reset or does it permanently stay increased?

The way it is now, it doesn't reset, this has been something that I've been thinking needs to change I just don't know how.--Jaydon105 (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2021 (MDT)

I have a suggestion about that, what if the user gets to roll a Constitution save with a certain DC every 8- constitution modifier of long rests. On a success the DC decreases by 1 or their Constitution modifier to a minimum of 16? Just an idea there. P@uL (talk) 03:13, 30 April 2021 (MDT)

That's not a bad idea.--Jaydon105 (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2021 (MDT)

And in this At 7th level, you master the basics of Ninjutsu. You gain affinity in the Basic Ninjutsu or Taijutsu nature. If you already have affinity in both, you gain affinity in another Chakra nature you know.

What if the user has affinity in basic Ninjutsu but doesn't have taijutsu? Does this grant them taijutsu?

It would grant them use and affinity in taijutsu.--Jaydon105 (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2021 (MDT)

And last question is when a feature like clan boons say you have affinity in a nature, does that mean you have the nature. And affinity in it? Or do you automatically have affinity in it but still have to take it as a nature later on? P@uL (talk) 05:51, 29 April 2021 (MDT)

You would gain use and affinity in it.--Jaydon105 (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2021 (MDT)

In Particle Release, does Detachment of the Primitive World Technique Area and Split Detachment of the Primitive World Technique add to the chakra cost of Detachment of the Primitive World Technique? Or does it still have the same effects without adding 25 chakra?

As it is now, they would cost additional chakra, but should be changed because to cast them you would have to have your chakra point maximum increased above the regular maximum you can get which is 45.--Jaydon105 (talk) 06:42, 30 April 2021 (MDT)

Does sharingan's replication still cover jutsu or is it only features?

Jutsu would be considered features, though it could use some clarification, I'll get on it.--Jaydon105 (talk) 06:42, 30 April 2021 (MDT)

How long does the Black Tornado from the Taijutsu page last?

I’d say 1 minute by default, but seeing as this would be a bit broken I might put in a DEX save--Bobert (talk) 11:37, 4 May 2021 (MDT)

I made a suggestion about the sharingan's mangekyo DC up there if you want to see it. In genjutsu, do I choose which kind of genjutsu it is when attempting to trap the creature or after having them fail the save? If not when attempting then does that mean attempting to cast genjutsu costs no chakra?

And some clarification on genjutsu master feat would be nice, as it says genjutsu and that indicates it means genjutsu from subclasses which only two subclasses grant.

Though I think there are some "genjutsu" in the jutsu list for example temple of nirvana, but it's not clarified. Nor are we told if those Jutsus are counted as genjutsu. P@uL (talk) 16:38, 30 April 2021 (MDT)

An indication as to what Jutsu are/aren't Ninjutsu or Genjutsu is a great idea, just hard to implement, but if you have a good idea how to list them feel free to suggest away.--Jaydon105 (talk) 01:44, 1 May 2021 (MDT)

What if each chakra nature that actually has genjutsu had a "Ninjutsu" and "Genjutsu" header in it with the appropriate jutsu listed under its header?

P@uL (talk) 04:09, 1 May 2021 (MDT)

This seems to be a fine solution, I'll implement it when I have time unless someone else wants to take care of it sooner.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

Does the path of sealing feature that replaces ranged weapons damage with your unarmed damage die do that to thrown weapons and shuriken jutsu?

I don't see why it wouldn't apply to thrown weapons, and it would stack with Shuriken Jutsu.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

And does sharingan's replication replicate any jutsu of any nature or only those you're capable of using? P@uL (talk) 09:05, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

Should be fixed now.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

Some abilities/jutsus state that they use a reaction, but do not state what they react to. Which makes it kinda usable at all times. Was that intended? Or is that just a mishap? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 09:27, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

Yeah I noticed that too, I don't think it's intentional, most of them you can tell when they're supposed to be used, but it still should be clarified, I would just fix it where you see it.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

I'll just name the ones I've managed to find with a quick sweep.

Instant Water, Cloud-Style Reverse Beheading, Rock Armor, Great Shark Bullet, Ice Rock Dome of Magnificent Nothingness, Rubber Rope, Mayfly, Honoikazuchi, Shadow Piercing Jutsu. There could be more that I haven't noticed. Thanks in advance for taking the time to do this. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 06:53, 4 May 2021 (MDT)

I took care of every reaction jutsu that I could find in subclasses and jutsus, hopefully, that's all of them but definitely do tell if any more are found with the same mistakes as before.--Jaydon105 (talk) 09:17, 4 May 2021 (MDT)

Does shuriken shadow clone jutsu only make one clone per weapon or can you make any amount of clones as long as you have the chakra? Whatever the answer is I think one per weapon is less broken than being able to make infinite weapons. P@uL (talk) 12:23, 3 May 2021 (MDT)

You would only be able to make one clone per weapon.--Jaydon105 (talk) 07:34, 4 May 2021 (MDT)

I think if you have both the six-path sage mode and outer path sage mode you should be able to exit baryon mode more easily because it was stated if naruto had both halves of hamuras chakra then he would be able to use the mode freely.

I can’t seem to find anything on that statement at the moment. Would you mind sourcing your statement?—Ref3rence (talk) 16:21, 3 March 2021 (MST)

Should people gain access Genjutsu at 2nd level the same way as Ninjutsu and Taijutsu seeing as how we’ve got a column for it?--Bobert (talk) 01:34, 5 May 2021 (MDT)

In my opinion, no. Simply because all of this really goes under Yin Release (Shadow Release). I would say they should unlock Yin Release first to have access to it. And besides I have plans of making more Genjutsu later on and I think Genjutsu should be earned on how it works for Chakra.TheInfamousSage1 (talk) 05:25, 5 May 2021 (MDT)

If using the Random Natures and Kekkei Genkai Limit can Kagutsuchi from Mangekyō sharingan still grant you blaze style even if you have another Kekkei Genkai? P@uL (talk) 02:55, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

Yes, I'll clarify that.--Jaydon105 (talk) 07:18, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

And can the summoning Jutsu be used to summon people or is only the rinnegan summoning able to summon people? P@uL (talk) 11:18, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

That's a rinnegan exclusive ability.--Jaydon105 (talk) 11:21, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

If using the chakra exhaustion variant rule can the path of beast initial release and above reduction of normal chakra lower your chakra below 0? If so does that mean it can kill you with chakra exhaustion by reducing your chakra below 0? Please answer this as soon as possible P@uL (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

I revised it, it would be unfair to the player if they died in that way.--Jaydon105 (talk) 17:24, 6 May 2021 (MDT)

Can you replace weapon damage for unarmed damage? Like a monk can do with weapons they are proficient in? Is the "add dex-mod to the jutsu's damage unless stated otherwise" still in effect? Or was it removed? Additionally, something more specific. Does "half as much" in Cloud-Style Crescent Moon Beheading refer to the weapon damage? Or the entire damage roll? So, if I have affinity, does a 5th level character with a wakizashi do 1d6+1d4 damage on a successful save? 2d6+2d4 on a failed save. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 04:57, 7 May 2021 (MDT)

First question, no, but it could be revised that does seem pretty fair, second question, I'm pretty sure that got removed, though I don't see why it did so it could probably be added back, though I think intelligence would make more sense, thirdly if something says half damage and doesn't specify, it means you take the normal damage that you would've dealt (2d6+2d4) and take half of that.--Jaydon105 (talk) 09:20, 7 May 2021 (MDT)

I've put this in requests but seeing requests aren't being answered for the time being I'll put it here

I think scattering thousand Crows jutsu is too weak, the way it is now really isn't worth that 5 chakra. I think it should either be able to move the affected area or the chakra cost should be lowered. P@uL (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2021 (MDT)

I've been really busy lately and haven't had time to make too many edits, but I should be able to take care of this now, remember that anyone can make edits if they want to, you don't always have to wait for a response.--Jaydon105 (talk) 09:20, 7 May 2021 (MDT)

I've removed the weapon damage change from the class features and added it to path of the warrior and path of sealing. Because in my opinion being able to efficiently use a Katana as well as someone uses his fists should be the result of specialized training and being able to deal tons of damage by just throwing weapons with shuriken jutsu should belong to the path of sealing and the Fūma clan rather than everyone. And in the show people that aren't specifically specialized in some way with the weapon they're using use their fists and unarmed strikes instead, so giving that to the whole class would destroy the point. So I hope it's not an unsatisfactory change. P@uL (talk) 06:17, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

I agree, it kinda makes Path of the Warrior and Kenjutsu-based Shinobis obsolete due to their weapons basically being the same as a regular unarmed strikes. That also means Feats like Acrobat allow you to make 8 Unarmed Strikes in one Attack Action. --Bobert (talk) 07:44, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

When using Taijutsu acrobat you always deal the Weapon's own damage, even if you could normally change the damage of the attack. P@uL (talk) 08:03, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

In Path of the Warrior and Path of Sealing, it says that weapons you’re proficient with benefit from Martial Arts, does that mean we get to add our unarmed attack damage along with the weapon’s regular damage or does it just give you the option to use your DEX instead of your STR mod for attack rolls--Bobert (talk) 07:48, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

As it is now, both, you can both use Dexterity or strength and use your unarmed damage instead of the Weapon's damage P@uL (talk) 08:03, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

While I do see where you guys are coming from, I do disagree on the basis that it would be more in line with other classes, (namely the monk), to be able to replace your weapon's damage with your martial arts, the class features you listed already do give good buffs like letting your weapon damage scale up with your level. The issue is also that once your unarmed strike deals more than your primary weapon, your weapons become obsolete.--Jaydon105 (talk) 12:50, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

Jay, I honestly have no idea what you're going for, but I like the recent change. It gives the warrior path and the sealing path something somewhat powerful that can allow them to keep their purpose while still doing some serious damage. It keeps this ability special. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

Basically what I meant was that the only class in official rules that has martial arts, the monk, also allows you to deal your martial arts damage in place of your weapon's damage, which does make sense if you think about it, for example, think of like, Naruto hitting someone with a kunai vs him hitting someone with his fist, he wouldn't be dealing any less damage with a kunai than with his fist, it just doesn't make any sense, and as it is now, path of the warrior and sealing already get massive damage with their weapons because of their weapon's damage die increasing, due to it scaling with martial arts. The whole point of allowing you to replace your weapon's damage with the martial arts damage is to allow your weapons not to become obsolete.--Jaydon105 (talk) 21:47, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

Both of us didn't know that, as weapon damage scaling like becoming a 2D6 instead of a 2D4 is a Shinobi world setting variant rule. Otherwise why would I write something that makes them deal the same damage as unarmed strikes. Edit: actually, I just read archive 4. In the path of the warrior section. There what reference wrote indicates that those subclasses did UNARMED STRIKE damage all along. And not scale in that way, so with that my point still stands.

You're basically giving something that was subclass and clan boon exclusive (Fūma clan) to the whole class. That can easily be fixed in-game by buying a bladed knuckle duster. The class doesn't have to be an upgraded copy of monk and that's not what it's meant to be.

And if talking about the show, later on Naruto barely uses Kunai (I'm saying barely because there maybe some parts I forgot) and no, it had nothing to do with sage mode. He even barely uses it in base. In boruto he only used it to spar with boruto, something that was a joke to Naruto. And the Jonin don't use Kunai all the time either except people that have a special use for them like Minato. Kunai is for versatility in Naruto the Jonin use it tactically or to attack at a range sometimes without using Chakra. For example take kakashi he uses it in the zabuza fight to incapacitate zabuza's arm. And take other ninja that attach paper bombs on them. P@uL (talk) 03:46, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

I obviously don't want to create a carbon copy of the monk, that'd be dumb, I used the monk as a reference because it is the ONLY class in official rules that has martial arts so it's the only class to use as a template for said ability, my point is that you don't necessarily need special training in weapons to be able to hit harder with them, and path of the warrior and path of sealing are exceptionally powerful as is, it wouldn't be a problem giving it to the whole class, I also think you might be misunderstanding the warrior weapons damage scaling, basically at 3rd level when you gain the ability and it says that your melee weapons benefit from your martial arts feature, it means that when your damage die increases for your unarmed strike, your weapons do as well, it functions the same as the Shinobi World variant rule, if you guys are deadset on keeping it in the individual paths, however, I'm going to add it as a variant rule for the class, doesn't make too big a difference to me.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:41, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

Jay, you couldn't be further from the truth. Saying that it benefits from the martial arts doesn't mean that the weapon's damage scales with unarmed strike. Originally, it meant that someone could replace their weapon's damage dice with unarmed strike's damage dice, like monks could. While additionally giving any weapon the class and the person is proficient with the ability to switch the modifier from strength to dexterity. That's it. That's also how it is with the monk. However, we thought that changing it so only the warrior and the sealing paths should be able to have that, for many reasons. But that's not the point. It seems like you have completely mistaken the implementation of the feature, which is why this debate is taking place. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 11:08, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

That doesn't change my point at all though, I believe I'm interpreting it the correct way, even if I'm not, I still think it would be better working with the class as a whole, if you guys disagree with my interpretation, that's fine too, it's not a big deal, I can still just add it as a variant rule and we can call it a day. And your weapons already can use dex instead of strength whether you have the path of the warrior/sealing or not. It's definitely not that I'm not seeing the "truth" or something, it's just faulty wording at best. I'd suggest if you're going to implement this rule, switch up the wording a little bit.--Jaydon105 (talk) 12:10, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

Alright. Wording will be fixed and you add that rule. Sounds like a good place to leave this at. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 12:55, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

Fair enough on trying to balance the weapon damage per level I guess, it doesn’t make a huge difference now that I think about it. It’s only useful if said weapon has a specific property or is magical, but Jutsu like Shuriken Jutsu have to be nerfed regarding this though, you’re basically dealing double your unarmed damage (if you have affinity) and have the ability to do even more as long you have the chakra with Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu.--Bobert (talk) 14:46, 9 May 2021 (MDT)

Shuriken jutsu should just deal the same original damage of the Weapon like disturbance taijutsu acrobat P@uL (talk) 03:47, 10 May 2021 (MDT)

Can Lightning Rod be used on any attack? Even attacks that are made with other jutsu? Or is it only on attacks made with the attack action? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 14:37, 15 May 2021 (MDT)

I'd say anything that specifically says you attack, which some spells/jutsu do.--Jaydon105 (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2021 (MDT)

So Amenominaka states, "You open and enter a portal to another dimension of your choice. This can be a portal of your own design, or a preexisting dimension." When it says that it can be a portal of your own design what does that mean, is it implying that you can make a dimension? Also the way the jutsu actually canonically functions isn't by opening a portal it actually replaces the world around you.--Jaydon105 (talk) 04:01, 26 May 2021 (MDT)

I just had a couple of questions for clarification. For the nindo "I'll be the greatest ninja" my players and I were a little confused, are they automatically granted any extra subclass, or are they only granted it if they have something to implant? Also for the uzumaki clan, do they need to be effected by two levels of exhaustion in one turn to be effected, or just two levels of exhaustion through a day feels like one to them. My last question is, for path of the sage are they converting their own chakra to senjutsu chakra, or are they gaining senjutsu chakra from their surroundings

1. I think it's supposed to be anyone of the basic subclasses, but that extra subclass would use the rules of implantation. At least that's how I and our players do it, since I'm certain it doesn't mean you'd have a dojutsu or tailed beast appear inside you out of nowhere. Nor do I think it's supposed to replicate a level 16 ninja feat.

2.The Uzumaki don't need to be effected by the exhaustion in one turn. They gain exhaustion as normal but the number of levels they'll need to have accumulated for the effects are doubled. So an Uzumaki with 6 levels of exhaustion for say, if you're using the chakra exhaustion rule, used up all their chakra all the way to the negatives. It will only give them disadvantage on ability checks, halved speed and disadvantage on attack rolls.

3.In the Path of the Sage you convert your normal chakra into Senjutsu, mechanically so. Gathering natural energy from your surroundings is flavor text if that is written there. P@uL (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2021 (MDT)

In "Path of the Beast" subclass, on the 20th level feature it mentions "Sage Mode", I'm probably being an idiot but could someone clarify what it refers to? I searched sage mode and only came up with the "Path of the Sage" subclass which doesn't quite add up, thank you for your time! Sleepy Âsh (talk) 07:20, 13 June 2021 (MDT) 11 June 2021

Sage mode is part of the first feature of the path of the sage, which occurs when the user has more senjutsu chakra than their current normal chakra. To sign your posts put four tildes under it. P@uL (talk) 14:06, 11 June 2021 (MDT)

I just had one more quick question. In path of suffering it mentions that your strikes and weapons mode of bones count as adamantine. Does that change anything mechanically, like do they do more damage or anything? Also, what jutsu should my players be using if they plan on sealing beasts

Melee weapons made of or coated with adamantine are unusually effective when used to break objects. Whenever an adamantine weapon hits an object, the hit is a critical hit. And they also overcome the resistance or immunity of certain things/creatures.

To seal a tailed beast use the eight trigrams sealing jutsu in the Fuinjutsu list. P@uL (talk) 13:41, 16 June 2021 (MDT)

You mention that 1 ki = 2 chakra and a spell is equal to three times its level chakra. In "Path of Sealing" at level 7 you get "Nature Sealing Technique" which refers to jutsu, I'm currently participating in a campaign using this subclass (thank you so much its great) and with the DM we decided that using the foretold rule about the ammount of chakra ki and spells are worth I could seal them and release them in a similar fasion. However it doesn't say anything about cantrips, how much would a cantrip be worth chakra wise? Sleepy Âsh (talk) 10:50, 20 June 2021 (MDT)

Cantrips have no level, or are "level 0" so they would be worth no chakra. P@uL (talk) 11:32, 20 June 2021 (MDT)

So it says that to use Jutsu you need both of your hands. I’m guessing that means you need can’t have any weapons in your hands like the Bladed Knuckle Dusters.

Yes, you would have to drop any weapons or shields in your hands unless it is a weapon with the Glove property.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2021 (MDT)

In the Path of the Cursed, when entering the Cursed State one chosen ability increases by 2 to a maximum of 2. Is the 24 limit permanent or only when Cursed State is active?

As stated directly above that, "While Cursed Mark is active, you are subject to the following:", so this limit would only apply to the increase granted by Cursed Mark.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2021 (MDT)

So for the Alternative Feature: Master Strategist for the Puppetmaster Subclass, it says that we can control a fourth and fifth puppet, what is the CR limit for those two. Is it the same CR as the Third Puppet?

This has been addressed before in the above-linked Clarifications archive "Master strategist does not grant additional puppets, only the ability to control two additional puppets. It's really only a good option if you took human puppeteer or have a very generous DM."--Ref3rence (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2021 (MDT)

Question with the Six Paths Sage Mode Requirements: Sage Mode, Mangekyō Sharingan or Indra's Reincarnation, and Hashirama’s Cells or Asura's reincarnation can we use the rennigan as a replacement for everything other then the sage mode requirement as rennigan requires these already but may have been transplanted? Also when at lvl 2 we pick either taijutsu or basic ninjutsu but then never specifies when we can pick up the other which would be nice to have clarified.

Implanting a Rinnegan is not enough to acquire Six Paths chakra in the same way that implanting a Sharingan doesn't make one an Uchiha, so no. As for basic ninjutsu and taijutsu, they're just like every other chakra nature, and can be taken any time you gain a new one.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:58, 12 August 2021 (MDT)

What about a character who was born with the rennigan as I'm playing a campaign where one of the party members was born with it and is a natural part of there body and not implanted. And ya I understand the uchiha thing but you can still get every bonus that an uchiha can get by using an implanted sharingan with a feat.

Also why is the Outer Path Sage Mode Requirements: Sage Mode, Byakugan or Tenseigan if that's the case as we could just implant a tenseigan the same way as a rennigan but not be locked out of getting outer path sage mode and we also don't need a mastered byakugan either. Plus the subclass for the rennigan can be taken at level 3 for any character without the implantation rules being applied and it doesn't make sense that a character who chose to start with the rennigan can't use six paths sage mode but yet someone who finds a sharingan and implants it then gets hashirama cells is able to get it no problems.

In canon, no character is born with a Rinnegan outside of the Otsutsuki (Nagato's situation is the intended circumstance for having it at 3rd level), but if your character is, then sure, I guess we can stipulate a rule. As for OPSM, not requiring Mastered Byakugan was an oversight that will be rectified shortly, and you can't implant a Tenseigan, otherwise it reverts back to being a Byakugan. Also, Dojutsu Master is intended to be a mastery of Dojutsu beyond the likes of Kakashi (hence the high requirements). They're also not completely locked out of it as is, since if it's that big of a deal anyone can be gifted part of the So6P's chakra. That being said, for the sake of making the requirements not favor certain players, since one subclass taking the place of two boons/two heavy investments, it should probably only fulfill the MS/IR requirement. Any thoughts?--Ref3rence (talk) 08:59, 13 August 2021 (MDT)

Ya having the rennigan be used as another option to MS/IR sounds fair because I do agree just taking 2 subclasses with no other requirements would make it a bit broken for path of the exalted players. Also the tenseigan never specifies that you can't take a tenseigan and transplant it so if that's what you want it to be going as you may want to add that into its description because otherwise it leaves it open for people to be implanting it in game. Scrull 16:23gmt

It's not that I want it there, it's that it's part of the canon (if anything it should be easier to lose given how the ending of The Last went), and it's pretty clearly stated under Tenseigan Manifestation: "If a Tenseigan is removed from its owner’s eye or the owner dies, it fades into a Byakugan".--Ref3rence (talk) 09:23, 13 August 2021 (MDT)

Ah right sorry should have checked the sub class a bit closer that's my bad 😅

I feel like Six Paths Ten-Tails Coffin Seal should just be a Path of the Exalted Unique Jutsu rather than a Fuinjutsu, it's kinda weird that it's a Fuinjutsu to me. Also the Tsunade clan boon makes no sense seeing as Tsunade was a Senju herself.--Jaydon105 (talk) 21:23, 13 August 2021 (MDT)

I agree with your idea with Six Paths Ten-Tails Coffin Seal, but have to disagree with the Tsunade clan. Tsunade doesn't really follow the precedent set by Hashirama and Tobirama of having a ton of natures to choose from, instead focusing entirely on taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. Even ignoring that due to a handful of databook statements, it would just be weird to have a Jiraiya clan and an Orochimaru clan, but no Tsunade clan.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:16, 14 August 2021 (MDT)

Fair enough.--Jaydon105 (talk) 12:22, 15 August 2021 (MDT)

Ephemeral might be a little bit too good just because the creature makes their save at disadvantage on top of potentially being paralyzed for a full minute, for example if your party is fighting a single really strong enemy the combat would just end if they failed the save.--Jaydon105 (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2021 (MDT)

If I was to use 6 chakra to make shadow clones would all of them have 6 chakra or would it be split evenly also how would it work with the cost reduction feats

Hopefully this has been clarified on-page, but the intent (as stated by "each clone created in this way counts as a different casting of the Jutsu" and "Each clone 5 hit points and the chakra spent creating it (this applies to things that would reduce the cost)") is that if you spend 6 chakra total on the jutsu, regardless of any reduction feats, the clones will have a total of 6 chakra, but that could be 3 chakra for two clones, 2 chakra for one clone and 4 for another, or any other potential split.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:41, 18 August 2021 (MDT)

If you choose the otsutsuki clan boon what ninja path would they start with? Would it he the path of sight? Since they get the rinnagan after eating a chakra fruit? - D

It would entirely depend on the player. You could start with Sight to represent mastering your Byakugan, but you could just as well be an Otsutsuki that masters Truth-Seeking Orbs or the Eight Gates.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:35, 30 August 2021 (MDT)

Okay thxz. I was also wondering if the player chooses Otsutsuki are they able to place a Karma’s? - D

As outlined in the Path of Succession, the only requirement to place a Karma seal is to have the Perfect Otsutsuki feature.The only effects of taking the Otsutsuki clan boon are those stated in the feature.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:42, 31 August 2021 (MDT)

Okay thxz a lot. I love your work keep it up! - D

If you have the Byakugan but turn it into a Tenseigan do you lose the features of path of sight and only gain path of celestial?

Unless you have the Tensei Byakugan boon, you can only benefit from one dojutsu or the other.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:45, 8 September 2021 (MDT)

With Cherry Blossom Fist, do taijutsu techniques count as unarmed strikes? Or does it only account for the normal unarmed strikes you would get with extra attack? For example, my character has both Path of the Healer and Path of Sight. Would using his bonus action to activate Cherry Blossom Fist and then using his action for sixty four palms double the damage of the jutsu, since the jutsu is composed of unarmed melee attacks?

Cherry Blossom Fist would only apply to jutsu that allow you to make an unarmed strike attack roll, so it would not apply to jutsu like Sixty-Four Palms, since that targets a creature with a saving throw.--Ref3rence (talk) 05:45, 20 September 2021 (MDT)

So, I was wondering whether Genjutsu and Ephemeral from Path of Hatred costs an action or a bonus action? It doesn't list one so, I've always been a bit confused on that. -ThatVoiceDude

Sorry if this question is too dumb but, as for the One Currency System variant rule, does that essentially mean I get a ton more chakra? If I am a 1st lvl Wizard and a 2nd level Shinobi with a +0 Con modifier, do I get 4 (2nd level Shinobi) + 6 (each spell slot equals 3 times its level in chakra, 1st level wizards have 2 spell slots) chakra?

At the moment yes, but I've been trying to iron out the spell slot wrinkle for a while. Still not entirely sure how to do that, but I think it's mostly fair to allow for a player to get more chakra by sacrificing their ability to get higher level features.--Ref3rence (talk) 08:48, 9 October 2021 (MDT)

Does the Path of the Body lvl 3 ability refer to your level as a whole? (as in, overall level for multiclassing) "At 3rd level, you can store food inside your body. You can store an additional day’s worth of food which can be consumed at will. As an action, you can use this stored food to regain an amount of chakra equal to your level. You cannot do so again until you finish a long rest."

Shinobi level. --Jaydon105 (talk) 15:01, 15 October 2021 (MDT)

Under the 2nd level Chakra feature is says "Jutsu cast outside of initiative cost half as much Chakra so long as the Jutsu is will not damage or otherwise directly negatively affect a creature". In the Path of Hatred subclass it is stated that "At the end of each turn you have your Sharingan active, you must spend 1 chakra, or 2 if it was implanted.". My question is: does a non-implanted Sharingan allow the user to use it indefinitely out of combat even before reaching level 15? Or does it not count as a jutsu and costs chakra regardless. If it doesn't count as a jutsu, what about the Byakugan, which unlike the Sharingan, requires hand signs to be activated? Sleepy Âsh (talk) 13:33, 22 October 2021 (MDT)

Not quite sure where you're getting that the Byakugan needs hand signs, but neither count as jutsu, and thus are not halved. The only things that are jutsu are formatted as jutsu (or for a more RAW definition, are listed under an "X Jutsu" header or after "you gain the following jutsu"). This technically leaves a blind spot in the Genjutsu feature, but I plan on rectifying this soon. Hope this helps!--Ref3rence (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2021 (MDT)

For the Asura Path of the Rinnegan, how many Asura Path Modifications can you have active if you don't have Asura Path as a focus? I haven't been able to find it. -ThatVoiceDude

Thanks for the catch! This should be fixed now.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:49, 26 October 2021 (MDT)

As for The Path of Sealing "Animal Covering" ability, do you need to have the animal in question physically near you? Or can you choose whichever you like? And, does it have a time limit?

You do not need the creature near you and it does not have a time limit outside of needing to maintain concentration.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:33, 5 November 2021 (MDT)

Gate Of The Great God in Fuinjutsu has a DC 3 Strength saving throw base DC. Is this correct?

"As an action, you materialize and slam a massive tori gate onto a nearby creature. They must succeed a DC 3 Strength saving throw or become restrained for this jutsu's duration. This jutsu may be used multiple times on the same action, increasing the DC by 3 for every additional use. You may only have two tori gates active at a time. If this is used as a Sage Art to grant the creature disadvantage, the disadvantage remains for this jutsu's entire duration."

That is the intent, as it is supposed to have a low cost that can be used to increase its DC. That being said, I might rework it.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:47, 29 November 2021 (MST)

Hey, I decided to try and make a campaign with this and wanted my players to start off as Academy Students. So I was wonder if you could help me figure out what type of Justus I can suggest my players to learn to ease them into it.

Every basic natures has a couple of jutsu with a cost between 1-3 chakra chakra that are intended to be a player's starting jutsu, with higher cost natures either requiring more chakra (which can be achieved in a variety of ways), or playing like a warlock. For a more specific, if restrictive answer, Academy students as a creature in the setting I created for this class start out with Shuriken Jutsu, Transformation, and Body Flicker as they all have fun and simple combat and narrative uses in addition to low cost. In the case of a player choosing Taijutsu instead of Basic Ninjutsu at 2nd level, Transformation and Body Flicker are intended to be replaced with Shadow of the Dancing Leaf and Flying Claw. I hope this helps, but first and foremost, while the number of choices can be daunting, a lot of fun in this setting comes from choice, so don't feel like players need to pick any of these.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:05, 9 December 2021 (MST)

In case you ever need help with something like this again, the generic nin list has creatures with what I believe to be the most reasonable progression for gaining jutsu. Additionally, most path specific jutsu have low costs, making them a good choice for low level players.--Ref3rence (talk) 09:19, 9 December 2021 (MST)

Hey there is something that I’m little confused about one of the special chakras. What exactly is Heavy Chakra and what does it do exactly?

Heavy chakra was added for the Heavy Chakra feat in order to make the main Constitution-based feats equal to the main Intelligence-based feats, and is compressed chakra inspired by Naruto attempting to use Kurama's chakra for the first time. It does exactly what it says under Special Chakra.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:15, 12 December 2021 (MST)

" As for Cloud-Style Reverse Beheading... As a reaction, when you are targetted by an attack, the user makes a weapon attack against a creature in their reach. On a hit, they take half as much damage." I can't quite understand what this technique refers to; do you take half damage from the attack if you hit a creature? Does the other creature that you hit take half damage?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by ManzanaJack (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.

Honestly, I'll probably rewrite reverse beheading altogether, as either way it can be interpreted doesn't really fit how it works.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:21, 15 December 2021 (MST)

Hey one of my players had just reached level 3 and had chosen the Path of the Puppet Master for their subclass. They had wanted to use Karasu from the Shinobi World Bestiary, but it’s CR is at level four. Even though we are using the PECR rule, he isn’t at a high enough level to get it.

Sorry about that, I could've sworn an IP had fixed that (as he was initially based off of Kankuro's stat block), but I can see how another user could interpret that as a shadow buff and undo it. Hopefully this has been fixed.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:00, 15 December 2021 (MST)

so if making pills is an alt feature then whats the main one for path of healer?-killshot

For some reason when I made that edit I thought Mystic Palm and Pill Creation were on the same level. Hopefully this has been fixed.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:04, 19 December 2021 (MST)

So for the Path of the Insect-Nin and it says one species of Shinobi Insects, does it mean the player can pick only species like Swarm of Kikaichu and they can only use that one?

That is correct, though you do gain a second species at 10th level for an additional cost.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:04, 19 December 2021 (MST)

So for the two for one Jutsu for Basic Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, can I take one Jutsu from Basic Ninjutsu and another from Taijutsu or is that not how it works?

You may take a Basic Ninjutsu and a Taijutsu on a single level.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:04, 19 December 2021 (MST)

So I saw the change to Kama Seal Absorption Jutsu but I'm a little confused, it says when you are targeted you can use your reaction to absorb the jutsu basically. Does that also mean it doesn't work for area of effect jutsu or what?

Not sure where you're getting that, even if multiple creatures are being targeted, you are still a target of the jutsu.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:48, 20 December 2021 (MST)

If you use Laser Circus, can you just make all of the beams target 1 creature and deal ludicrous damage?--Jaydon105 (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2021 (MST)

You absolutely could, and I am shocked that this flew under the radar for so long, so thanks for nabbing that! I have reworked it to be a variant of All is Suffering with a longer windup and slightly higher damage.--Ref3rence (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2021 (MST)

Say you had a character with a sharingan in one eye, and a Rinnegan in the other, could you benefit from both paths at the same time?——Jaydon105 (talk) 06:32, 4 January 2022 (MST)

Yes, though you would still be limited by the effects of only having 1 of each, as detailed under Implantable Paths.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:14, 4 January 2022 (MST)

In path of the Sage's level 3 ability, would something like the Basic Taijutsu Technique benefit from the d10s? ManzanaJack (talk) 19:54, 7 January 2022 (MST)

No using RAW, since the attacks are part of a jutsu, but if a DM decides it should, it shouldn't break balance all too much.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:27, 8 January 2022 (MST)

On that note, can someone pretty much have Sage Mode active all the time until they roll initiative? And, what is considered "Sage Mode" for abilities like lvl. 10's Sage Kata? Is it having more than half in Sennin chakra? ManzanaJack (talk) 12:20, 8 January 2022 (MST)

Outside of initiative, nothing is keeping a player from having Sage Mode active indefinitely. Hopefully what Sage Mode has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 14:18, 8 January 2022 (MST)

I'm sure I'm interpreting this weirdly but, do you actually "regain" chakra from a shadow clone dissipating if you spent 4 chakra on it?--ManzanaJack (talk) 05:30, 12 January 2022 (MST)

As stated in the feature, you regain 4 fewer chakra points spent to a minimum of 0, so you would regain 0 chakra.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:53, 12 January 2022 (MST)

This has been on my mind for a bit, but does the whole reducing hit dice thing from the Nindo "I will become the greatest ninja" cut your hit points in half as well? Same question for the reduction in hit dice from advanced curse of Hatred as well as hit dice increase from Chakra alternative.

Yes, and in the same way, an increase in hit dice increases your max hp as well.--Jaydon105 (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2022 (MST)

Hey so I have been playing with path of beast and I noticed that when you are in tailed beast mode and you get hit down to 0 hp you return to normal, does this mean it works like a druids wildshape where you get knocked out of the form but you have all the hp that you went into the form with? so if you had full hp changed into a tailed beast gaining their hp go hit enough to be forced out of the form would you still be at full and just need to use a full turn action to go back into that form?

The intent of "You have the same percentage of your hit points remaining" is that it applies to going into and out of Tailed Beast Mode. That being said, it has been clarified on page.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2022 (MST)

If you wanted to use the Path of Hatred feature, replication, on a rogue's sneak attack, how would it work? For example, if it was a level 10 rogue that had 5d6 worth of sneak attack, would you get the level one version for 2 chakra, or would you get the level 10 version for 20 chakra?--Jaydon105 (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2022 (MST)

I believe a player would be able to choose to what level a replicated sneak attack would work at, and how much it would cost with it, when they use it. That being said, there's really no good way of wording such a mechanic, and it's really up to the DM.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:58, 16 January 2022 (MST)

Forgive me if this is a silly question, but can the Chakra Nature feat be taken more than once, same for Ninja of Prophey and Advanced Hatred. Also I've been having some trouble figuring out how Izanami works, could you give an example?

No worries, the intent was for such a thing to be possible, and has been clarified on page. As for Izanami, I'll use the example used in the show/manga: "on turn 1, Kabuto attacks Itachi, hitting him and seemingly killing him, only for him to take no lasting damage from being an Edo Tensei. On turn 2, Itachi uses his sword to hit Kabuto, cutting off one of his horns. On turn 3, Kabuto steps on a crow feather in a specific place while approaching Itachi.

On turn 4, Kabuto hits Itachi, seemingly killing him, only for him to take no lasting damage from being a crow clone. On turn 5, Itachi uses his sword to hit Kabuto, cutting off one of his horns. On turn 6, Kabuto steps on a crow feather in the same place while running at Itachi. Itachi's eye goes blind, and Kabuto is paralyzed as he relives variations of those three events on loop, with the condition that if he realizes that trying to become Orochimaru instead of being Kabuto is a bad idea, the Izanami will be released." Hopefully this helped.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:44, 17 January 2022 (MST)

Is the flight speed that the Transformation technique gives you acquired at level 6 overall? Or is it when you reach level 6 in Ninja? ManzanaJack (talk) 11:55, 18 January 2022 (MST)

It was supposed to be class level, but I couldn't figure out a good way to word that so I've slightly revised the wording, but it should still work the same.--Ref3rence (talk) 13:13, 18 January 2022 (MST)

Where did the Rinnegan ability name Kaimon come from? I don't think it has a name in canon.--Jaydon105 (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2022 (MST)

It seems the rename occurred on November 24th, 2019 during the major rework of the subclass. It's likely the name comes from the same place as the first of the Eight Gates, having the same name and being translatable as either the Gate of Opening or simply Opening the Gate. Either way, it's a lot more succinct than "Sasuke Uchiha's Space–Time Dōjutsu".--Ref3rence (talk) 22:29, 20 January 2022 (MST)

For Genjutsu Master Feat, can you only hurt one person that is under your genjutsu with a bonus action? Or can you hurt everyone that is under your genjutsu with a bonus action?

You may only deal damage to a single creature.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:40, 25 January 2022 (MST)

How does the self-taught eight Gates work and also is there a typo is it supposed to be a variant rule?

Sorry for the confusion, I was jotting down some ideas at the last minute and thought I had used the complete version. This has been corrected on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:43, 27 January 2022 (MST)

Is the overflowing chakra feat supposed to change the damage modifier in the jutsus that say "+ your intelligence modifier damage"? And does it change the stat that determines your maximum number of seals from your int modifier to your con modifier? P@uL (talk) 02:40, 8 February 2022 (MST)

All of the above is the intent.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2022 (MST)

I have a question about genjutsu, what is the point in having arffinity with yin if the only time it does damage is if you have Genjutsu Master with your bonus action?

There are more jutsu in Yin Style than Genjutsu, among which Sound Wave, Calling Upon Tears (which the enhanced version will be added sooner or later), and Yin Style: Dominating Rasengan, all of which deal damage. Additionally, things like the Path of Specialization's improved technique allow alternate ways for jutsu that don't normally deal damage to benefit from Affinity.--Ref3rence (talk) 13:19, 12 February 2022 (MST)

So with the tail beast mode do you gain the actions of your tail beat or do you just become gargantuan essentially? Cuz I know you keep your same amount of health but is it basically only your size that change or do you get there to hit or bite or any of their jutsus or?- killshot

You gain all of their actions and features in addition to your own.--Ref3rence (talk) 13:19, 12 February 2022 (MST)

The Powerful Source feat specifies that your AC is 10 + your Dexterity modifier + your Proficiency bonus, is that correct? --ManzanaJack (talk) 11:33, 15 February 2022 (MST)

Thanks for catching that, could've sworn I had changed it to Strength.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:54, 15 February 2022 (MST)

This is a dumb question but what happens if it's attempted to make a rasengan/chidori clash? P@uL (talk) 17:50, 16 February 2022 (MST)

I don't really get how genjutsu clones work, do they attack or are they meant to just protect the user? P@uL (talk) 02:43, 25 February 2022 (MST)

Initially, it was too vague and didn't really fit the idea of the clones not really being there. This has been reworked to be a bit more confusion-based.--09:54, 25 February 2022 (MST)

So I saw the Kama Seal Absorption jutsu reduces the chakra itself in the jutsu that is targetting the character, well what about jutsu that target you but there isn't a chakra cost like C0 and such can I not absorb it?

Jutsu that don't cost chakra can not be absorbed.--Ref3rence (talk) 14:23, 15 March 2022 (MDT)

If that is the case then why is it when you go to the 2nd level feature Chakra it has a little thing about Jutsu in there saying that all jutsu cost chakra?

The "unless otherwise stated" is important, as every rule except the last two are ignored in at least one jutsu.--Ref3rence (talk) 13:42, 16 March 2022 (MDT)

Another question, So I saw in Path of Blood that in the 7th level feature you get Genjutsu: Ketsuryugan but I was reading through it and noticed that it doesn't say anything about you not being effected by the genjutsu cast on you. Does that mean that you can use this as a reaction but still have to make the save and potentially be in your own genjutsu while the person who cast the genjutsu is in your sea of blood?

This has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2022 (MDT)

Is it possible to use Advanced Training to gain a 20th level feature of an implanted path? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 12:26, 19 March 2022 (MDT)

You can not, as you would still not have its requirements.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2022 (MDT)

lol, I totally forgot that Advanced Training is a 17-19 level feature. But basically, as long as the requirements are met, I can take just about any path feature. Right? Such as by using Ninja Path* (or 28th level Advanced Training if that's not in the process of being removed). --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 01:00, 22 March 2022 (MDT)

I don't see a problem with that, though it's up to the DM how they interpret "an implanted eye can only gain class features up to 15th level" in the Implantable Paths section. By my perspective, players are at such a level of power at that point that it wouldn't be out of whack balance-wise, and could be justified lore-wise as exceptional mastery as by that point they are nearing high Six Paths levels of power.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:55, 22 March 2022 (MDT)

What is Heavy chakra? And what differentiates it from normal chakra? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 20:34, 19 March 2022 (MDT)

Heavy chakra was added as an anti-absorption option that can be gained using a handful of feats. It is meant to partially simulate situations like Kurama, whose chakra was stated to be exceptionally heavy and difficult to control.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2022 (MDT)

In the nindo, "I will become the greatest ninja" it says the character's hit dice are halved, which is similar to the boon "elderly master", except that it doesn't state what happens after gaining the nindo. Do you gain a hit die once every two levels? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 04:47, 31 March 2022 (MDT)

This has been edited on-page to hopefully be a bit easier to use right out of the box, I hope this change helps.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:06, 31 March 2022 (MDT)

Interesting idea. It's much clearer now. But isn't it a bit overkill? Late-game, the character would be significantly squishier when compared to others. Just a suggestion, but what do you think of just lowering the hit dice size by 1. So a d10 becomes a d8, d8 > d6, d6 > d4, and so forth. --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 05:01, 14 April 2022 (MDT)

Is the alternate feature in path of sealing "Fuinjutsu training." Supposed to replace Versatile training or animal cloak? P@uL (talk) 14:23, 18 April 2022 (MDT)

Hopefully this has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 14:12, 19 April 2022 (MDT)

"Anything that prevents you from casting spells, such as an Antimagic Field, also prevents you from using Jutsu." Does this count for someting like counterspell? If so, would non hand seal techniques be affected? Say, can you counterspell a Rasengan? Me and my DM have been ruling it like counterspell affects techniques, but we came upon a dead end when we thought about techniques without any hand seals. ManzanaJack (talk) 20:15, 21 April 2022 (MDT)

I don't see why counterspell would change depending on whether hand seals are included. If your Rasengan suddenly vanished mid-attack, you wouldn't accomplish much.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2022 (MDT)

In the effects of being the ten-tail's jinchuriki under the wisdom column, it says "and your meditation timer is always at maximum". What does that mean? --FrickyDiBoop (talk) 03:54, 22 April 2022 (MDT)

That was a carry over from an older version of Sage Mode. Hopefully this has been resolved on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2022 (MDT)

Does the Yamanaka clan feature cover the whole duration of the Jutsu or just one round? P@uL (talk) 07:04, 20 June 2022 (MDT)

Hopefully this has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 18:37, 21 June 2022 (MDT)

So does the vanish feature of path of assassin dictate that using a puppet will break the invisibility? -DaddyPlague

RAW, a player controlling a puppet that uses a jutsu or makes an attack would end the feature, but DMing, I could probably let it slide.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:12, 8 August 2022 (MDT)

Hello, i want to know why is the uzumaki chains on the fuinjutsu list? I wanted to know if i can remove it from there to create the uzumaki clan sub class. Xandelicious

Because Adamantine Attacking and Sealing Chains are fuinjutsu. While they are Hiden, I don't see two jutsu being enough Uzumaki-specific content to constitute an entire subclass like there is for the Ino-Shika-Cho. That isn't to say not to try, but Path of Specialization focused on the Adamantine jutsu (or maybe some more alternate Path of Sealing features, which would be greatly appreciated) would probably work just fine as an Uzumaki-based path.--Ref3rence (talk) 17:12, 8 August 2022 (MDT)

What exactly does isobus jinchuriki feat do? Something about their movement speed is unfinished. -Daddy Plague

This has been resolved on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:49, 8 August 2022 (MDT)

Just wondering why the one currency system spell value got changed?--Jaydon105 (talk) 13:41, 10 August 2022 (MDT)

The original was a typo, as the more complete list has spell slots being 6 times as valuable as ki and chakra points as half as valuable, and the conversion was done backwards. That being said, I have been intending to change it again so each spell level has its own cost, which I believe will work better.--Ref3rence (talk) 13:55, 10 August 2022 (MDT)

So since chakra threads cost two chakra, can shadow clones use puppets? -Plague

I don't see why they wouldn't be able to.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:22, 11 August 2022 (MDT)

So is there no way to freely activate safe mode? Like an I able to meditate to my max senjutsu chakra and then activate it at will? -Plague

Sage Mode activates automatically, but you don't exactly lose anything by having it active. While it's not RAW, I would allow anyone to forgo the benefits of a feature if I were the DM.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:21, 14 August 2022 (MDT)

So, im kinda confused in how learning new jutsus work. Like, when can the player gain new basic jutsus? Are the fuinjutsu obtainable through leveling? Sorry if it is a dumb question, i just want to understand it better. Xandelicious

You can know a number of jutsu depending on your level, as shown in the Jutsu column. These jutsu can be learned from any nature you have. The Fuinjutsu and Chakra Absorbing Jutsu natures can only be gained through the Absorption Nin and Barrier Nin feats (as stated in the headers on their page), and Kekkei Genkai require their component natures to gain. Hopefully this helps.--Ref3rence (talk) 12:29, 15 August 2022 (MDT)

What is the DC for the kazekage puppets iron sand drizzle?

This should be fixed now.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:35, 16 August 2022 (MDT)

Would puppets be stored in summoning scrolls or sealing scrolls?

I'm unsure what you mean by "summoning" scrolls, but they can be sealed within scrolls.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:18, 19 August 2022 (MDT)

Well summons are usually summoned with scrolls right? And I just figured that since they were creatures they would have to be summoned.

Within the canon, contract scrolls are only used to make the contract, the actual summoning doesn’t require a scroll, nor is the summon stored within the scroll. Mechanically, in order to summon a creature with the summoning jutsu you need to make a contract with it, which most puppets can not do as they are not alive.--Ref3rence (talk) 16:07, 20 August 2022 (MDT)

Ah thanks mate, sorry if I keep bugging you- Plague

No worries, I actually really enjoy answering. Questions like this help players who might not feel as comfortable asking themselves, and help me find faults I might not otherwise catch.--Ref3rence (talk) 21:40, 20 August 2022 (MDT)

Alright cool, I'm just really invested in this material, and lately been really into puppets and such.

Also I had a question about the chikamatsu collection of ten and the mother and father puppets, does each puppet have its own health and whatnot, or are they lumped together as a single entity.

Each puppet has its own hit points, these pages just act as generalized pages in the same way Sakon/Ukon (Shinobi World Supplement) or Demon Brothers (Shinobi World Supplement), since making 10/2 different pages for creatures with relatively the same stats would be unnecessary.--Ref3rence (talk) 22:22, 21 August 2022 (MDT)

Does black chakra count as senjitsu you know cause it's basically a failed sage mode?

It does not, as senjutsu chakra and black chakra are different applications of the same concept, and thus function very differently.--Ref3rence (talk) 23:06, 8 November 2022 (MST)

Regarding the Path of Youth subclass, the first body paragraph states that "The buffs are the number stated on the gate, not cumulative. If you enter a gate higher than first, this still counts as entering the gates prior to it." Does this mean that the damage taken at the end of each turn while under the effects of the Eight Gates stack upon the opening of each gate? (Using the 1st gate requires 3hp per turn, and using the 3rd would require 14hp per turn due to the damage stacking from the 1st and 2nd gates) If so, that would be a total of 54hp per turn on top of the 8th Gate's 2 exhaustion levels per turn since exhaustion isn't exactly linked to hit points. --Windslinger8 (talk) 17:50, 12 November 2022 (MST)

Ended up getting a little side-tracked, but hopefully this should be clarified on-page. You only take the damage from the Gate you currently have active. The old wording was to give jutsu like Front Lotus to higher Gates, but was too clunky and roundabout.--Ref3rence (talk) 10:31, 13 November 2022 (MST)

what going on with the paths and natures

what happen to half the paths and all the chakra natures are you doing an update

I accidentally left a comment open when moving the Path of Mutation, which ended up hiding more content than intended.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:42, 11 January 2022 (MST)

Flying Thunder God

I know that Flying Thunder God is very overpowered, but I think it would be nice to at least have it present on the boons page. Janderion (talk) 11:11, 12 April 2022 (MDT)

It's already been added as a fuinjutsu.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:45, 12 April 2022 (MDT)

Oh, thanks for that info. Janderion (talk) 15:17, 12 April 2022 (MDT)