Talk:Hive Leech (5e Spell)

The reason I made it a spell is because it's better as a spell, rather than a feat. It doesn't follow 5e's feat naming scheme, it allows for easy hit dice regeneration, and feats don't have prerequisites above 13, as they are meant to be inclusive. Also, how do you train for it? --Lavie (talk) 04:41, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Talk here. You didn't describe training. You described a transformation. And it still allows a PC to regain multiple hit dice to where they could easily refill their hit dice. Also, still do follow precedents. New ones can be made, but we still follow them. Restating what I have said already. --Lavie (talk) 08:16, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Since we have feats that allow people to effectively gain weird powers like a warlock, it's probably not the most outlandish thing to pretend like you gained the blessing from a bug god or grew some weird hive in your body. Not my first choice of a feat flavor for sure and possibly very very weird to roleplay.--Yanied (talk) 08:39, 7 December 2021 (MST)

We've got more broken things in here that allows for multiple bonus actions and gaining upto 7 attacks being made the idea of a player gaining back hit die one of the most underused resources besides the offense I take is the blatant change and nonconsultation that happened when the feat was changed to a spell like damn I wasn't even asked to look over the new thing or my opinion of it just fricking bam it doesn't even look like the original like the spell is somewhat similar but could exist separately from the feat that way we don't step on eachother toes here. I think we can agree on that right?--Brostodes (talk) 09:09, 7 December 2021 (MST)

The existence of other broken things on this site is irrelevant. And again, you didn't address the issues. --Lavie (talk) 09:16, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Oh yes the naming scheme well I mean I could call it hive master plus the hit die thing is not a problem to me or the groups I've ran with since the short /long rest system is utter garbage that I've never used it till the session ends so using hit die to heal is kinda not thought about and again the most use you'll get is at a short/long rest when all those hit die are gonna be useful plus they're other feats in here that require more than a 13 in a stat and more to aquire Ex. Key Confidence all this does let you add your cha mod to your damage and atk rolls so again I do not see the reason why we cannot make separate works? --Brostodes (talk) 09:32, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Do not use homebrew to justify homebrew. Just because it isn't a problem at your table doesn't mean it won't be a problem at other tables, especially since you are supposed to have 2 short rests during the adventuring day, which is when hit dice are used. --Lavie (talk) 09:35, 7 December 2021 (MST)

And then this becomes some else's problem not mine I can't predict who will use this I can't stop those who could abuse this all, I can do is create something I think will be fun and adds more tools to some characters kits to make them feel more alive. And you're supposed to have 2 short rests but that might not be the case the dm is in charge of the game whatever precautions or prenotions about how a game will go is arbitrary cause just like players dms are unpredictable so to assume anything is tantamount to assuming monkeys will write Shakespeare. I do not hold myself to the standards of which you hold yourself by and will not be brow beaten into it, your changes however you feel necessary could've been made into a separate body of work but to instate swift changes without consent or notice is what I still take umbrage with. its equivalent to popping into an art gallery and looking at a painting and then painting over it because it didn't conform with your current view of its form. Cordially yours --Brostodes (talk) 09:55, 7 December 2021 (MST)

The point of this wiki is to have content useable at many tables, not just one. Do not just say it's someone else's problem, as that is not the point of the wiki. Whenever you post something to the wiki, anyone is allowed to edit it so long as they at least keep the intent, which for this is to have a hive of insects deal poison damage and to regain hit dice. If you wish to keep your version, put it on your user page with no tags or categories. --Lavie (talk) 10:21, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Then keep the works separate is that too much to ask you have your spell and I have my feat then we can go on with our day without ever needing to interact with each other agree to disagree. Cordially yours --Brostodes (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Having something that is broken isn't constructive to the wiki. Just put the feat on your user page without tags or categories. --Lavie (talk) 11:48, 7 December 2021 (MST)

Oh yes must we keep on going back and forth of the validity of balance with all due respect begone with your foul accursed standard I will not be beholden to it whatever farce you call balance you can take shove up the queen's tart hole --Brostodes (talk) 11:57, 7 December 2021 (MST)