User talk:Sabre070/Archive 1

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Welcome!

Hello Sabre070/Archive 1 and welcome to D&D Wiki. I hope you have been enjoying this site, and I hope you have been finding the information here on D&D Wiki useful. I am an admin (and, actually, the owner as well) here on D&D Wiki along with a couple other people who make up "The Face" of D&D Wiki. An entire list of admins can be found here.

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Community

A strong and welcoming community exists on D&D Wiki, and I am sure you will find it rather nice. Most discussions take place on content talk pages, however please feel free to walk into The Tavern (our local chat room) and talk to some fellow D&D Wikians. Anyway, on D&D Wiki, possibly since discussions are never deleted, people try to be nice. This means please follow Wikipedia's guidelines on Civility and Etiquette when discussing anything. And, if an argument does arise, please use Wikipedia's Dispute Resolution to make sure everyone comes out happy. Also, on a pretty different note, to ensure people know who posted what, please sign your name after a post with four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the signature icon. This will automatically produce your name and the date (by the way, it's kinda a pet peeve of mine when people don't sign posts... arrg...). Anyway, I hope you come to love the close-knit D&D Wiki community and welcome again, you are now a D&D Wikian. --Green Dragon 12:36, 16 March 2008 (MDT)

Thank You

I thank you for correcting some grammatical errors on my pages, as you probably noticed, English is't my native language. That was cool thank you. --Lord Dhazriel 13:27, 3 May 2008 (MDT)

WikiCookie

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	I give you this WikiCookie for helping to format Kronin (3.5e Creature). The creator removed all the creature and author template parameters, so formatting this took quite some work. Thanks for helping. --Green Dragon 20:51, 7 May 2008 (MDT)

YUM!! --Sabre070 00:24, 8 May 2008 (MDT)

Please feel free to add this to your userpage, so people can easily see what you have helped with :). --Green Dragon 12:58, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

Question

I saw "DMHSTUB" the other day and thought... "The Dungeon Masters Handbook is a stub? ... Lets go expand it."... Is this:

• A) D and D wiki addiction
• B) Wishful thinking
• C) "OMG how random"
• D) All of the above

Thanks for your input.. --Sabre070 05:05, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

D) All above --Lord Dhazriel 06:25, 17 June 2008 (MDT)

A ;). --Green Dragon 12:31, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

Adminship

Would you like me to nominate you for adminship? --Green Dragon 13:17, 12 November 2008 (MST)

I am honored that you would say that, and sure. --Sabre070 13:18, 12 November 2008 (MST)

Oh, you already started one. I will respond soon. --Green Dragon 07:25, 20 November 2008 (MST)

Welcome to Adminship. You are now, as Dmilewski once put it, part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. But first, for the the new features and their uses. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.

What it is

• What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.
• What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.
• Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam. It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits. Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page. For example if I edited my user page and you clicked "rollback" on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it. Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.
• What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.
• Editing every page is another self explanatory one.
• Patrolling edits is a method for keeping RC in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked. All it does is, once "Mark as Patrolled Edits" is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on RC when "Hide Patrolled" is marked.

When or how it should be used

• Deleting pages is normally done through Category:Candidates for Deletion. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.
• Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with Template:Locked Page added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with Template:Temp Locked Page added to the top of the page in question), in case of OGC published materials (with Template:OGL Top added to the top of the page in question and Template:OGL Bottom added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the Main Page are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example Dungeons and Dragons is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like LA 0 Races is only protected from IP edits. No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like Template:Admin Locked Page)
• Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found either on RC or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion which the user has prompted, then I sometimes block them for up to a month. No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.
• Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the SRD and the MSRD. Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies. Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the SRD (as Dmilewski has done) or the MSRD (as EldrithNumen has done) take a look at SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List or MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks to see what needs to be done within the SRD or MSRD. There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.
• Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc). If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in RC (as I have :)) then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful. Below is how to "major" in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&D Wiki and I. First off load recent changes and press "Hide patrolled edits". Next click any diff and look at the change. Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the "what links here?" function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the "Back to" footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled. If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled. It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well. In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&D Wiki. Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.

I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again, as Dmilewski once put it, you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --Green Dragon 08:11, 29 November 2008 (MST)

Patrolling edits: I have a question about patrolling edits, when you click on the un-patrolled edit there is usually a link down the very bottom saying "Mark this article as patrolled". Sometimes this isn't here, is this an error? Is there another way to mark an edit as patrolled? --Sabre070 03:44, 30 November 2008 (MST)

On new pages (because their is no diff) it is at the bottom. When you click on a diff then it should be at the bottom of the whole "diff" information. Does this help clear it up a bit? --Green Dragon 04:46, 30 November 2008 (MST)

Are talk pages almost automatically marked as patrolled? (other than adding headings or moving comments there isn't much to do) --Sabre070 05:26, 30 November 2008 (MST)

Nothing is marked as patrolled automatically save my edits and some bot edits (like the Sandbox cleaning, etc)). What I have been doing with discussion pages is marking them patrolled after they have been formatted (Template:Unsigned, correct header depth, spaces around the headers, blank lines between posts, correct indentation, etc etc) and either have been answered, the author has been alerted of the comment, or if it is an on-going discussion and both parties check the discussion regularly (like Gravity Warrior right now). --Green Dragon 05:41, 30 November 2008 (MST)

Barnstar

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	I give you this Barnstar for adding Semantic summary's to all of the 3.5e Creature Templates. Thank you so much for improving the accessibility and usefulness of all the templates on D&D Wiki. This deserves a Barnstar, thanks. --Green Dragon 13:26, 12 November 2008 (MST)

Campaign Setting Categories Addition

What was the reasoning behind adding Category:Categories to the CS categories? They can all be accessed from Category:Setting by going to the next 200, etc. --Green Dragon 12:23, 30 November 2008 (MST)

I was looking at the D&D Wiki:Things to do list. I saw that and added categories to the CSs (I was just starting anywhere) but looking back at it now it seems I misread the task, sorry. --Sabre070 18:28, 30 November 2008 (MST)