Talk:Traveling Duster (3.5e Equipment)

Wording

Does the +1 AC stack with armor? Also if it grants AC it should be an armor and not a clothing item... --Green Dragon 19:54, 5 February 2007 (MST)

The 1 AC is representing the fact that the duster can be re-enforced enough that it starts to act like padded armor that can be worn over other armor. However, since it's not usually re-enforced enough to do that, it is counted as clothing.--Cypresslyshra 20:18, 5 February 2007 (MST)

Hm... +1 AC for 20gp, that stacks with all other armor, seems overpowered. This is like an Amulet of Natural Armor for a Human that is not a monk at 1/100 the price. --Green Dragon 19:18, 7 February 2007 (MST)

That cost was taken from padded armor, SRD. What would you suggest it would cost to reenforce it sufficently?--Cypresslyshra 19:55, 7 February 2007 (MST)

I see it as that cost would work, if it did not stack with armor bonus. First off I cannot see a fighter, in full-plate, with a reinforced Traveling Duster over his armor riding around. I think the Traveling Duster should be its own armor and not be able to be worn with other armor on. This is just how I see this item, what's your take? --Green Dragon 13:26, 8 February 2007 (MST)

My 2 cents is that if the duster is re-enforced, then it is like armor. Therefore it should be an armor bonus. I'd also add in a max dex, armor check penalty (even if you decide the penalty to 0) and arcane spell failure. The re-enforced version should really be a specialty light armor (perhaps that is strictly better than padded armor?). Aarnott 13:46, 8 February 2007 (MST)

The thing is, a duster can be worn over a suit of conservtive armor, meaning it's not full of flanges and ridges, easily. So maybe we should make it like a non-magical armor enchancement, like it adds 1 to AC, but also subtracts from max dex bonus, and adds to the current arcane spell failure, along with a +1 to armor checks. Sorta like wearing a padded suit over another piece of armor. (Don't they still have the rules for bundling armor in DnD?)--Cypresslyshra 23:36, 8 February 2007 (MST)

No matter what is done, it is clear that an AC bonus is being granted and that bonus is an armor bonus. So it cannot stack. Beyond that, we can play with it. But it should either be an armor or an armor enhancement (though not necessarily a magical one). --EldritchNumen 23:42, 8 February 2007 (MST)

How would I write it if I wanted to represent the duster's re-enforcement as an enhancement on any armor it's worn over?--Cypresslyshra 23:47, 8 February 2007 (MST)

Just say the duster is an armor that can be worn over other suits of armor (excepting full plate, etc...) that adds +1 equipment bonus to AC but also adds -1 armor check and 5% more arcane spell failure chance (or whatever you decide these numbers should be). --EldritchNumen 00:28, 9 February 2007 (MST)

Okay, done--Cypresslyshra 00:43, 9 February 2007 (MST)

It looks a lot better now, thanks to everyone that helped make this item what it is now. Good job. --Green Dragon 12:32, 11 February 2007 (MST)