Talk:Pocket Sand (5e Equipment)

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I don't know that it isn't an equipment. There's a lot of thought put into the mechanics, but the concept is so ridiculous, and it seems to have a comical edge, that the April fools tag seems pretty appropriate here. Coaldstone (talk) 23:20, 30 November 2018 (MST)

I agree. It's a well-written article, and it does have a place in a silly game. Quincy (talk) 08:12, 1 December 2018 (MST)

Eh, I more wrote it for a low tier game where access to better items that wouldn't necessitate the use of things like grabbing sand off the floor aren't usually an option, as it's based off an item in the Styx game series (Styx Master of Shadows to be precise). It's not a joke, but can be treated as such in some circumstances. Then again, so can other items that are actually canon to the game, such as the Deck of Many Things. Up to yall I guess. --Supersmily5 (talk) 10:46, 1 December 2018 (MST)

This bit of equipment was brought up in the discord server. We read through it and thought it was a bit hard to follow. User Anastacio did most of the work changing how this functioned, and I did a final pass over it. I don't know if it should still have the April Fool's tag as it makes sense now, but I am happy with its current state. MoDuckyMo (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2020 (MDT)

A few problems. First, while the elegant simplicity of your new version is nice, it lacks a range like other throwing items. Time to yeet it into someone's eyes from a mile away. Second, the item is kind of a joke. While it does make some sense to carry sand in low tier play just in case, there are often (Almost always) better options for adventurers specifically to do with their action economy. This leads to the third, you removed a lot of the functionality of the item in your new version as part of making it simpler. In the game the idea came from, the main character is able to use it to blind normal opponents, put out torches, hit switches, and so on, all from a fair range. It's one of your best options for expanding your stealth when it's available, because you're playing a goblin rogue. Otherwise, it's an okay item taken in isolation, but the April Fools tag fits in any version of it. The player decided to pick up sand. That's probably not a normal game. --Supersmily5 (talk) 12:43, 17 October 2020 (MDT)

With your first issue, there's actually a range on the pocket sand. On the third line of the article states 5 feet of range. Second, i get that's a joke, but i thought that could be fun to make this also a joke easy to fit on a actual game. Third, i do agree that making the sand functional out of combat, like in your example, to pulling out torches, would be fun. Don't know about the switches part though. And well, picking sand and throwing on the enemies eyes sounds like a thing that players would actually do in a normal, game, normal d&d games are always weird, hehe. Anastacio (talk) 13:21, 17 October 2020 (MDT)

Fair enough, I missed the range bit when I read it. However, an item being listed as a joke item on this wiki doesn't have to prevent you from using it. It's a word of caution to DMs that the page isn't practical for normal gameplay. If a player does use this sand, it's a bit of a waste given what even low level player characters can do with their actions, but that doesn't make it unusable. If it were, it wouldn't have a page to begin with. --Supersmily5 (talk) 10:21, 18 October 2020 (MDT)