Talk:Mechromancer 2K (5e Class)

Please make any contributions, suggestions, critiques, criticisms, and comments for this class here.  Any changes made to the class directly will be rolled back.  I welcome input and suggestions, but I worked hard on this class.

Jodahavatar, I recognize the hard work you have put into this class, but claiming ownership of a page in the general wiki namespace is prohibited. This is a community wiki, and the intention is that anyone may edit anything they wish, though we do have several guidelines in place to discourage blatant page vandalism. If you would like this page to be your own, then I would advise you to move it into your user namespace. Otherwise, I will have to ask that you cease and desist all attempts to 'watermark' or otherwise claim ownership of a page. I will therefore be removing the claim of ownership from the page, and if you need help moving it to your userpage, I will be happy to do so. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 12:07, 2 December 2020 (MST)

What does "moving it to my userpage" do? Does it change the URL? Does it remove it from the public list of classes? Does it make it harder to find? Because that's what it sounds like it does. Besides, you're right. "Anyone may edit anything they wish". That includes the original creator of the page editing out whatever doesn't fit their original vision of the page. I would have assumed that people that might be thinking about making edits directly might appreciate the information that their efforts would be better spent making discussion page comments than to be wasted on direct edits that would just be removed. Additionally, I have seen plenty of pages on dandwiki that have a big old banner across the top of them requesting no further edits. Are those different, somehow? Are those pages that have been moved to a user's namespace? I'm trying to not be a giant douche about all this, but I can't say I particularly appreciate what appears to be some random person swooping in and whacking me with a rulebook that practically no one ever reads (and you can't claim otherwise, because you know it's true). Like, as far as I can tell, you are no different than me, so what makes you special? Are you a site admin, or something? Because I see nothing indicating that. --Jodahavatar (talk) 14:39, 2 December 2020 (MST)

Pages that request no further edits are mostly due to already being in a balanced/finished state, which tends to imply completed playtesting. Making changes to something after it has been playtested kinda fiddles with the whole balance thing, so the banner sits there reminding you not to.

And, I ask you kindly, look a few pixels above the "Save Changes" button. It says, and I read, "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." You do not own this page, you do not control what happens to it, and most importantly you do not get to revert every edit made by someone who isn't you. Please just let other people make beneficial edits, and ask kindly that they come here before making bigger changes.

While sticking it on your userpage(click your username at the top right) does mean it hides the page, it also kinda stops other people from editing it. A small price to pay for sole editor privileges.

Admitting you don't know the rules as you try to enforce your own doesn't look good. --SwankyPants (talk) 18:48, 2 December 2020 (MST)

I would recommend you read up on the wiki's Help Portal, specifically the following pages: Help:FAQ, Help:Attribution Policy, and Help:Behavioral Policy#User_Pages. The fact that you do not yet know these things reflects poorly on your understanding of the wiki's purpose. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 19:25, 2 December 2020 (MST)