Talk:Grave Walker (5e Subclass)

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The techniques in this subclass all have issues[edit]

I'm not even going to get started about the subclass itself, but these are the notes I've prepared on the techniques themselves:

  • Execution's "Hit Streak"; this feature also just straightup lets you instantly kill something
  • Impact makes reference to enemies that are blocked by "Twin Soul," when no such ability exists
  • Strike From Above's "exceptional Str/Dex/Con rules" (unspecified)
  • Wraith Swiftness making reference to the subclass apparently having access to a Wraith, and this move costs 1 "wraith fire" every turn it's used
  • Detonate deals 8d6 unspecified damage to an unspecified target at 3rd level when something something fire?
  • Wraith Stun says the Grave Walker has a "partnered wraith" and the move can "open an enemy up for execution"
  • Dominate Beast makes no effort to describe how you dominate the beast, just that it obeys all commands
  • Last Chance is just a mess
  • Interrogate "delves into the enemy's mind"; what this does is not specified
  • Critical Strikes can increase the Hit Streak, and for some reason are noted as also applying to Wraith Daggers
  • Lethal Last Chance deals "lethal damage" when Last Chance succeeds
  • Wraith Dagger automatically hits and staggers the target unless there is a physical wall in the way, or if there are "exceptional Str/Dex/Con rules"
  • Brutalize implies the Grave Walker can sneak up on an enemy and instantly kill them but does not specify how this triggers
  • Shadow Strike again making reference to the never-specified Wraith Fire resource
  • Pin in Place uses round counting and makes reference to Wraith Arrow, which doesn't exist
  • Wraith Streak can be activated only when the Hit Streak is "fully charged"
  • Stealth Drain causes "guaranteed drain" on proc and instantly kills a victim within 3 failed saves
  • Beast Hunter can "counter" attacking Beasts, even though these techniques can only be activated when you make an attack yourself
  • Swift Finisher allows Execution to work against creatures suffering from Stunned or Prone as a bonus action, even though you can only activate a technique as part of making an attack
  • Vault Stun lets the user make a "flurry attack" that is allegedly described under Wraith Stun
  • Brace of Daggers deals extra damage to "fleeing enemies"
  • Shoulder Charge can "damage shields" and does "impact" damage on a hit
  • Lethal Shadow Strike lets what I presume is a teleportation attack "instantly kill enemies"
  • Wraith Blast is reliant upon the user knowing one of two other specific techniques, otherwise it does absolutely nothing
  • Combat Drain lets the Grave Walker "perform a drain as a normal attack, instead of forfeiting the next turn"
  • Beast Master is relatively okay in comparison to the rest but still has unclear wording
  • Blade Master does... something to the Hit Streak mechanic that I think is supposed to make moves that rely on it even more busted
  • Reslience again making reference to the nonexistence Hit Streak mechanic
  • Fire Arrow automatically deals "lethal damage" to anything Large or smaller, and Explosions caused by it are allegedly twice as large
  • Wraith Finisher uses a cone that measures in meters instead of feet
  • Brand causes any "drain"-type attack the Grave Walker makes to force a saving throw on the target or the target automatically becomes their slave
  • Shadow Mount runs on Wraith Fire (again) and lets the Grave Walker freely use Beast Domination on Gargantuan beasts with no downside
  • Double Critical Strikes gives you a a crit range of 15 to 20
  • Flame of Vengeance gives you a damage bonus for keeping up your Hit Streak (which seems relatively okay), in addition to some unspecified +5 bonus that I didn't catch
  • Double Charge lets you use two Hit Streak abilities at once when your Hit Streak is fully charged (and they are all already busted)
  • Shadow Strike Chain "still consumes two Wraith Fire" but has absolutely no mention of what its actual effect is
  • Quick Draw lets you fire twice with a bow in a single action... At 18th level?
  • Wraith Burn is just an AOE Power Word Kill with extra fire damage icing and frightening effects on top
  • Dispatch lets you instantly kill a minion, but nowhere does it say what a minion is or how you would get one
  • Release lets you release a minion from your service, but again, nowhere does it say what a minion is or how you would get one

TL;DR: This page needs serious help, and more likely than not is going to need a complete redo. Endermage77 (talk) 23:21, 10 November 2021 (MST)