Talk:Elven Blade Master (5e Feat)

...Kinda late to be bringing this up, but I'm reasonably sure that using the feat's third feature with the lightblade is strictly worse than just dual-wielding lightblades or shortswords (With Dexmod +3, average damage for two attacks is around 6 using this and 10 using dual-wielding, and that's assuming you keep your damage mod for this attack and don't have the dual-wielder fighting style). Or dual-wielding a lightblade with a shortsword, if you want the conditional +1 to hit but are on a budget. Also, when I think about it, I'm pretty sure this feat is the only difference between the lightblade and shortsword, and between the thinblade and the rapier. :/ Are you sure these weapons' unique qualities should require this much investment to get to? Knowlessman (talk) 03:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Just thought about this again and realized that using the third feature mostly cannot be anything but strictly worse than just attacking once (you can blow two Battle Maneuvers for the damage of one if you want both effects that bad, I guess, but that's it). Going to try an edit I thought of, if you don't mind. Knowlessman (talk) 13:00, 26 June 2017 (MDT)

You've made it inaccurate instead of less damaging. That's not very elfy. Marasmusine (talk) 13:36, 26 June 2017 (MDT)

I can't quite remember why I made it 0.5 ½ and 0.5 ½. Marasmusine (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2017 (MDT)

It's better than not having the feature at all now though. :| You don't reckon it'd be a good idea to instead say "both of those attacks deal 1 + your Dexterity modifier instead of normal damage," do you? Like, if I have a +4 Dex and just want to hit a guy...? Or maybe "those attacks both deal twice your Dexterity modifier instead of the normal damage"? 'Course, starting at +4, that's strictly better than average damage for the Lightblade... "...you may choose to have it deal damage equal to your Dexterity modifier plus half your Dexterity modifier"? Proficiency modifier is right out, I think, 'cause that'll easily overtake the weapon damage past around 9th level. ...Should it? Knowlessman (talk) 20:14, 26 June 2017 (MDT)

Also, prolly the same reason I gave Phoelarch (5e Race) a super mode at first; just didn't know what you were doing. (EDIT: ...Well, I say that, and then I remember that aasimar have outright super modes, so... I dunno) Knowlessman (talk) 21:07, 26 June 2017 (MDT)

Why not simpler?

You have trained extensively with exotic swords of elven make, and can slip a blade through the slightest of cracks in the heaviest of armors. You gain the following benefits:

• Once per turn, when you attack with a shortsword or rapier with which you are proficient, you add a +1 bonus to the attack roll.
• Before you make a melee attack with a shortsword or rapier with which you are proficient, you can choose to omit your proficiency modifier from the attack roll. If you do so, you can use your bonus action this turn to make one additional attack with the same weapon, which also omits your proficiency modifier from the attack roll.

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I don't understand the purpose of making two entire weapon pages just for this feat, especially when without this feat they are more expensive versions of the shortsword and rapier that happen to be made by elves. It isn't as though this feat is that powerful either way. This change would make it easier for a DM to incorporate this feat into their campaign. - Guy (talk) 08:06, 26 November 2017 (MST)