Talk:Dragon Shield (5e Equipment)

How is this any different from a normal +1 shield? In fact, I'd argue that its restrictions make it strictly worse. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 03:38, 13 July 2022 (MDT)

Apologies for the late reply! The intended function of this shield, is that it’s supposed to be a regular shield, but worse, for those who are unable to properly use it. Those who know how to use this shield properly are supposed to acquire the hidden benefits and properties of this shield. Hence, it is a Dragon Shield - it is only meant to be wielded by those who have some affinity with dragons. That said, this page does appear to be in need of some revisions.

-ajluis101, 20 Dec. 2023

Page Lock/Balance

Based on 5e SRD:Armor, +1, +2, or +3, I agree with a previous edit to make this item legendary. Regardless of any inspiration, or intent, it is pretty clear for D&D this is the balance that exists. If it is wanted for a specific campaign setting, then I'd hope to see that created first, and this item tagged so that users do not confuse it with being intended to general play at any table. Revival (talk) 18:50, 22 December 2023 (MST)

Hmm, in addition to the obvious power the AC bonus adds, I think the pricing is based on the generic price ranges by rarity. But because this has additional effects for draconic people and obviously a generally powerful bonus even without those, I don't think putting the price on the page is really a good idea. In general, 5e doesn't price its magic items and only provides a vague table because of the volatility of magic items.--Yanied (talk) 21:02, 22 December 2023 (MST)

Uhhhh, I didn't even catch that. I agree Yanied. Revival (talk) 21:32, 22 December 2023 (MST)

Looking at the original edits from July 2022, I think there was an assumption that adding negatives or drawbacks to the shield would lower its rarity. That's the vibe I get when I look at the pros like a +3 (requires attunement), unlimited flight (requires attunement, which requires draconic affiliation), and cons like the weight burden, etc. But this feels really min-max-y. I don't think the negatives necessarily justify lowering an item's rarity (complicates an overpowered sword with a possessive ghost, eg.). It'd be like demoting an artifact for being cursed (?).--Yanied (talk) 22:30, 22 December 2023 (MST)

Unable to Edit

It has been brought to my attention that the page cannot be edited at this time, in spite of its rarity needing to be reclassified as “very rare” rather than “uncommon”. I, the page creator, AJ Luís just want to go on the record and I say I am not able to make this change at this time. Whilst I would very much like for the page to be closed down, I would like for it to happen after I have made very clear my intentions. I DO intend for this shield to be used for common use, and for it to be commonly available. I would have appreciated if things were handled better, and it is my hope that this issue sees resolution shortly.

- ajluis101, page creator, 22 Dec. 2023

The page is locked only until some common ground is found, to prevent further conflicting edits. Revival (talk) 19:18, 22 December 2023 (MST)

If an item has a nice effect like flight, I would personally not also recommend not having the maximum +3 AC (very rare), especially since flying itself is a very rare effect (cf. potion of flying, magic carpet).

Since the OPs intention is to make this a common item, I'll make some changes that will match this as closely as possible, bearing in mind that common items generally have only incredibly minor effects. Marasmusine (talk) 14:57, 23 December 2023 (MST)

I feel it should have _some_ kind of protective quality. How do people feel about giving it a small damage reduction against damage caused by breaths? Marasmusine (talk) 07:34, 24 December 2023 (MST)

Maybe a bonus to Dex saves to reduce or avoid damage? — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 14:31, 24 December 2023 (MST)

I think on a failed save vs a dragon breath, the item can be used as a reaction to gain resistance until the start of their next turn, in addition to a +1 bonus. Their both uncommon properties, with the exception that 5e SRD:Potion of Resistance lasts for an hour vs this being not a full round. Revival (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2023 (MST)

Hmm... dunno... that requires the PC to have taken full damage from the breath to begin with, and breath weapons usually take a round or two to recharge which means the resistance might be wasted. Marasmusine (talk) 03:55, 29 December 2023 (MST)

I have created the page Great Dragon Shield (5e Equipment) which preserves the original intended power level of this item, changed into a legendary item. — Geodude (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 16:41, 24 December 2023 (MST)