Talk:Brightmaid (5e Race)
History, Society, & Lore[edit]
Saw some talk on CL's talk page and just wanted to reaffirm what they are saying. They gave some great examples to look at as far as how to adapt a race to other societies. If you don't want to write on these topics maybe there's another area you could expand on-their deities, their rituals, or maybe how they interact with other races. A single sentence doesn't get the job. I'd aim for 3 sentences. Personally opinion though as some users think you need to have a novel written. IF you were to add at least 5 sentences it'd really help with the maintenance template. Also, it is best to remove only the templates you address/fix. If you don't want to write the lore and stuff, you can leave the template up, or try requesting assistance with it. But people have to an idea beyond mechanical values of what the race is that they created. Cheers! BigShotFancyMan (talk) 08:44, 22 August 2018 (MDT)
- Alright. Allow me to specifically address the stub which reads, "Missing History and Society. Single Subrace? Conceptually Poor."
- The "single subrace" being "conceptually poor" to me comes off as hypocritical. WotC-published 5e races include half-orcs, half-elves, tieflings, and more subraces-as-races. In previous editions of D&D there were entire race options which were essentially like brightmaids in that they were rare and unusual members of other races. I don't think this should be a problem.
- The page already touches on how brightmaids fit into society, though it is for some reason under "Physical Description" when it might be better slipped under a different heading. I suppose that's part of the wording template, which I feel is valid.
- The page also touches on history as much as if not more than races in the Player's Handbook. It's honestly kind of ridiculous that a "History" heading is almost mandatory, even when core races often don't have it. It wouldn't make much sense on something like brightmaids are more like gifted/mutated individuals than their own historical race. - Guy 12:25, 25 August 2018 (MDT)
- Thank you to Guy for understanding and better articulating what I was trying to get across. This is why my History for them was just one or two sentences before it was deleted. Because I felt like I was being forced to repeat myself and no one likes to do that. Would it made the mods happier if I split up the headings more appropriately? I assure you much work went into this race but it was meant to be simple for others. They have no history because it depends on their base history. I have a half-elf brightmaid in one game, and a friend has a dwarven brightmaid in another. My characters history would follow half-elven racial hsitory while hers would follow dwarven racial history.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kesitron (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.
- I’m not sure the last time people looked at those races but 5e has little more to say than “assimilates with other societies.” There’s some racial relations mentioned, sure. But is that it? Toss history out then? WOTC didn’t cop out and say the halfbreeds just fit in and no history. Orcs have their own god, and stories of how they’re created, and etc. I hate defending a this type of maintenance but it’s not like there’s a lot there. What they look like & experience with others. BigShotFancyMan (talk) 16:37, 27 August 2018 (MDT)
- History seems unneeded, yes. I expanded society into its own section. Hopefully my edit accounted with all the noted issues while upholding spirit and intent. - Guy 09:09, 28 August 2018 (MDT)
- Bravo!!! (and oddly I feel bad for not contributing more-sigh) BigShotFancyMan (talk) 21:30, 28 August 2018 (MDT)
- History seems unneeded, yes. I expanded society into its own section. Hopefully my edit accounted with all the noted issues while upholding spirit and intent. - Guy 09:09, 28 August 2018 (MDT)
- I’m not sure the last time people looked at those races but 5e has little more to say than “assimilates with other societies.” There’s some racial relations mentioned, sure. But is that it? Toss history out then? WOTC didn’t cop out and say the halfbreeds just fit in and no history. Orcs have their own god, and stories of how they’re created, and etc. I hate defending a this type of maintenance but it’s not like there’s a lot there. What they look like & experience with others. BigShotFancyMan (talk) 16:37, 27 August 2018 (MDT)
- Thank you to Guy for understanding and better articulating what I was trying to get across. This is why my History for them was just one or two sentences before it was deleted. Because I felt like I was being forced to repeat myself and no one likes to do that. Would it made the mods happier if I split up the headings more appropriately? I assure you much work went into this race but it was meant to be simple for others. They have no history because it depends on their base history. I have a half-elf brightmaid in one game, and a friend has a dwarven brightmaid in another. My characters history would follow half-elven racial hsitory while hers would follow dwarven racial history.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kesitron (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.