Talk:Avian Assault (5e Spell)

Since there are no positive effects other than damage, and one limitation plus below average range, I feel like this should deal 3d12 damage on a failed save.

-AngelsAndAarakocra

Hm. You do bring up a good point, however psychic-type damage is a fairly powerful damage type, as not too many creatures resist it from my knowledge. Only ones that come to mind are most constructs, and possibly the Mind Flayers. I'll do some playtesting and see if 3d12 is too much or not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.240.229.149 (talk • contribs) . Please sign your posts.

By original design, druid and especially ranger do not have many spells that do a lot of straight-up damage and nothing else. (Ranger in particular relies on spells like hunter's mark that increase the damage of weapon attacks.) Compare this with spell with inflict wounds, which is on a similarly not-damage-oriented class, and does nothing on a whiffed attempt. It even has less range and is of an inferior damage type, but is still arguably the best attacking option at 1st level for a divine caster. I imagine that has something to do with it.

I could see it being bumped up a little, to say 2d8 + casting modifier—or a flat 3d8—but 3d12 just seems like too much. - Guy (talk) 22:28, 13 May 2017 (UTC)