Talk:Tiger Monk (3.5e Prestige Class)

Rating

Power - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because It's amazingly overpowered. Double jump height, an incredibly power ranged attack every few turns? Buffed up AOC, not to mention a massive attack bonus and save increase method. Why don't you call it the Mary Sue Monk? --58.178.0.236 20:24, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Wording - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because It was worded adequately, similar to a DnD article. --58.178.0.236 20:24, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Formatting - 2/5 I give this class a 2 out of 5 because While the format is adequate, it's grealty out of alignment, power wise, with the rest of the DnD prestige classes, cheesemongering aside. --58.178.0.236 20:24, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Flavor - 1/5 I give this class a 1 out of 5 because It's a compensation mechanism for the author, clearly. It's not integrated into any setting, and it seems to be more of a "lol, look what I cum up wif last nite!!" sort of class. --58.178.0.236 20:24, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Shows what you know. For starters, giving a 5 is the *best* rating. Also, the only thing graded in the formatting criteria is, you know, the format.

Second, it's *Jump*. It's not that great. I basically did that for the coolness factor.

And, yes, the fireball can be used every few rounds. Except that in a few rounds, the fight's over, or nearly so. I highly doubt that you'd be able to get it off more than twice. It's not that much damage, though. If you're level 10, you're doing, what, 5d8 damage + 1/2 ranks in Concentration when you use it? That's potentially 46 damage. CR 10 monsters barely notice that kind of damage. Except you're not going to roll 8 five times in a row. So you're basically going to do about 27 damage, on average, at level 10, every few rounds. You'd be better off trying to go for the combo.

It's not a big increase in BAB. If he's been the SRD Monk, he's already a point or two behind Full BAB, and he's not going to make that up. Ever. Also, I don't give a rat's ass about other DnD Prestige Classes, because they aren't even in alignment with each other. Plus, the SRD Monk has full saves anyway. Are you saying that's overpowered?

I don't know any of the settings. Really, I don't own any of the campaign setting books and don't want to. I make up places for my own games. So I put down how I'd put it--which is heavily based on Jago from Killer Instinct, an old fighting game that I replayed a while back with my older cousin (the one who got me into video games way back in the day.) I'm paying you the compliment of assuming you'd be able to find a way to use it if you wanted to. You *could* do that, couldn't you?

This was written purely as an exercise in seeing if I could convert things from other genres into mechanics for D&D Land--in this case, a fighting game's combo system and some other oddities. Heck, I even had fun coming up with abilities which matched Jago's set of special moves (including the leaping uppercut). If I really wanted to play a Mary Sue, I'd straight-out use this class: http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=49303.

So, we've established that you don't understand what is appropriate damage for a given level, you don't understand the rating system used to critique classes, you assume the worst of people who write things you don't like, and you just look at class features and go "OMG OVERPOWERED" without considering what they mean in the context of the level they're found at or their actual effects. In fact, you can't accept the idea that someone would write this without going cheesemongering. Also, you don't know what flavor is. I give your rating a .001287 out of five. --Genowhirl 20:53, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Corrected a couple of typos. --Genowhirl 21:05, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

I negate the rating, since the rater didn't seem to understand the rating system, was rather impolite and made inaccurate rating (for flavor by example). In fact this sound like some sort of trolling. --Lord Dhazriel 22:58, 13 March 2009 (MDT)

Thanks. Although, with a few more of these people giving bad ratings to Tome-based stuff, I'll probably develop cogent arguments in defense of all of them. --Genowhirl 01:09, 14 March 2009 (MDT)