Talk:Tartaric Wizard (3.5e Prestige Class)

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Power - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it is a well balanced prestige class for people who are normally practically helpless in combat such as wizards. It could be improved it were not as readily available to multiclass fighters.--Dragondance 14:59, 4 July 2009 (MDT)

Wording -4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because while it could use being polished off, some stuff is a little vague. it would probably improve if someone went through and sorted it out. --Dragondance 14:59, 4 July 2009 (MDT)

Formatting - <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --Dragondance 14:59, 4 July 2009 (MDT)

Flavor -5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it is a really imaginative idea. --Dragondance 14:59, 4 July 2009 (MDT)

Way to rate your own class. -- Jota 15:10, 4 July 2009 (MDT)

freind's, actually. he did it on my account though. Anyway, reworked as requested.


Power - 2/5 I give this class a 0 out of 5 because, to start off, spellcasters are already overpowered, considering that they get spells like shapechange (to transform into balors) and gate (to summon hundreds of solar angels), now then, this class grants full spellcasting plus additional spells. On top of this, at ecl 8, you get DR 20/ranged (considering that DR doesn't work against damage from spells anyway), granting an already overpowered character that can cast protection from arrows, a ridiculous ammount of survivability. Next up you give them a spell that deals d8/level damage and has a save DC of a supernatural ability, that is fine. Next you, as far as I can tell, grant this character +9 to attack rolls with their favored weapon. Stack this up against a fighter and you get the following:

BW: 3 (Wizard BAB) + 7 (BW BAB) + 9 (BW class features) + 1 (WF) = +20 to attack.
Fighter: 17 (fighter BAB) + 2 (WF & GWF) = +19 to attack.

Now then, the fighter is underpowered, but I chose it because it has full BAB, to show you that this PrC attacks better than a melee-based class of the same level. Then you have a +8 to damage, this, coupled with shapechange, and the ability to add d8/level damage to your melee attacks, makes for some unreal capability to deal damage. Now then, to top all of this off, you give it d10 HD, allowing it to cover the only weak point that spellcasters have, their 'squishyness'. All in all, this PrC attacks better than a melee class, defends better than a melee class, grants extra spells (allbeit, low level spells), can deal a utterly moronic ammount of damage, and can still cast those cheesey 9th level spells. → Rith (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2009 (MDT)

Upped to 2/5 because full spellcasting was taken away, but thats like trading a big flaw for a sharp flaw. Full spellcasting is fine on a class, just not one that gets a ton of added abilities that increase the characters survivability, on a class that give large ammounts of added abilities, full spellcasting is like capping the molotov off with a shot of C4. But, staggered spellcasting isn't good either. Nothing in the game (that isn't Frank & K style homebrew or pun-pun) is as good as a spellcaster who has gotten to 9th level spells. So, people, being aware of this, will not want to take a class that will detriment that progression. So, the change that has been made here is from 'most powerful class with too much added on' to 'class that will not be taken for loss of highers spells'. It's tricky to get spellcasting classes down really. → Rith (talk) 09:18, 17 July 2009 (MDT)

Wording - 3/5 I give this class a 3 out of 5 because you could have very easily made 'Sense Magic' be a continual arcane sight spell. Also, 'Dance with Death' says "This ability grants a +5 Dex bonus". What does this mean? Does your dexterity automatically get set to 20? → Rith (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2009 (MDT)

Formatting - 3.5/5 I give this class a 3.5 out of 5 because it follows the preload pretty well, though, there are a few missing pieces, and there is only one interwiki link. → Rith (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2009 (MDT)

Flavor - 4.5/5 I give this class a 4.5 out of 5 because while a wizard that has been trained for battle is always interesting, it does get rather old. → Rith (talk) 12:28, 6 July 2009 (MDT)

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