Talk:Oath of the Legion (5e Subclass)

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Some advice pertaining to future edits: The Demon's Influence, Imbue Armor, and Tainted traits likely ought to be consolidated into a single 3rd level feature alongside the Channel Divinity feature. The 7th-level feature appears to be rather underwhelming, if it's only usable a single time per long rest. Consider allowing each option to be used once per long rest, or brainstorm up an alternate similar feature. Additionally, it would make much more sense for the saving throw to use the paladin's spell save DC.

The 15th level feature is a bit odd, as keeping track of the entire party's hit points to see who's at half is overly complex. This would be much more viable if it depended solely on your current hit points, but I'm not certain how viable it is to have a feature trigger off of your hit points when, as a paladin, your AC is generally much higher than that of your allies. Still, it'd be interesting to see how it all shakes out.

The 20th level feature might be a bit much, you may want to compare it to similar capstone abilities from other Oaths. I suggest limiting the size increase to a single size larger. You may also want to check other Oaths to ensure you're not copying features from their capstone ability; I believe the Conquest or Vengeance paladin have an aura of fear as well, though I can't be certain. Again, I suggest that this feature use the Paladin's spell save DC as opposed to the listed DC.

Overall, I believe with refinements to spelling, capitalization, grammar, and sentence structure, this might make a fine subclass. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 02:05, 8 September 2022 (MDT)

"thank you for the advice! you do bring up multiple good points and valid issues/concerns. i will be editing the subclass accordingly." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MossyPebble222 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.
I feel as though clarification is necessary on the part of the spell save DC. The calculation for a spellcaster's save DC is 8 + proficiency bonus + spellcasting ability modifier. If you are a paladin with 18 charisma at 5th level, your proficiency bonus would be +3 and your spellcasting ability modifier would be +4, meaning your paladin spell save DC would be 8 + 3 + 4, equaling 15. See the Paladin's spellcasting section for details. Generally, when an effect calls for a saving throw, it automatically uses your spell save DC. Consider reading through the entirety of the Paladin class page to refresh yourself on its mechanics. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2022 (MDT)


"i will admit i was a bit of a fool there, hadnt played paladin in a LONG time and this was due to me disliking its subclasses (something this homebrew was meant to fix) so my brain couldnt remember every bit. thank you for pointing this out, i admit i feel a bit dumb not remembering this in the first place lol." - MossyPebble222

help with grammar[edit]

i am not a smart man and so i need help with fixing the wording in this subclass. i wasnt the best in english class and i will admit im not that smart. so any help with grammar and sentence structure would be helpful please