Talk:Nyan Kajan (Late) (5e Creature)

Design Note: Player characters, and Wizards in particular, tend to cap out at around CR 14 without having powerful items that artificially inflate their threatening presence. This character is CR 12-13 because of his hard to pin down nature, but as a Wizard, he's easily beaten after a few turns if against a party by himself. I know that a creature's CR usually affects their proficiency bonus, but there are exceptions to this rule, including PCs converted to NPCs. Someone changed this page to raise his CR to 21, far higher than it reasonably should be. If they make themselves known here, and give a good explanation as to why the CR should be higher, I'll consider changing it. Keep in mind: Creatures can be far deadlier than their CR would suggest. Shadows have 1/2 CR and can kill any dump stat Strength character easily (Regardless of level), Swarms of Insects have the same CR and can kill or seriously injure 4th-level tanks by themselves, Beholders are CR 13 but powerful enough to beat level 20 parties, and so on. --Supersmily5 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2021 (MST)

Hi. Me again. Feel like discussion the "incorrect CR calculation" here? At all? I'm willing to cooperate, it just doesn't seem likely to be true that a PC can have a CR that rivals LICHES. --Supersmily5 (talk) 10:13, 5 March 2021 (MST)