Talk:Mimic (5e Race)

Slight suspicion that they may be overpowered for a player race; I threw out the pseudopod attack from the MM and lowered the bite damage, but... :/ Do they have too many traits? The grappling does seem like a bit much, and maybe I should clarify whether or not they should roll Stealth or Deception checks while posing as furniture (They shouldn't). 21:08, 16 December 2015 (MST)

I think that if they polymorph into a chest, they have the option of their equipment going into the chest (rather than in a pile about them :) Marasmusine (talk) 07:15, 17 December 2015 (MST)

Ah, but the thing is, they're a solid chest. They need all that space to cram their mouth and flesh and biology and whatnot into. No room for storage. They just gotta stash their stuff nearby. ...Or I guess I could make them like an amorph from Schlock Mercenary and just be a walking garbage bag fulla junk. :/ Knowlessman (talk) 16:46, 17 December 2015 (MST)

It's dawning on me that I have no idea what kind of build one would even make with this thing. :/ Statwise, the only thing it's suited for with its limited AC is Barbarian. The stealth thing, though, makes one want to think it'd make an awesome Rogue. Can't really do much else with it, but that's even more true with other classes; it has shit speed and shit AC, and only the Barbarian fixes both of those, but only the Rogue can really make good use of its inherent traits. I'm almost tempted to get rid of half its traits and try to fix it up so you can be as versatile as other races, but I dunno. Knowlessman (talk) 22:18, 1 January 2016 (MST)

I actually think that it works pretty well my friends and i are starting a evil campaign and thanks to this Chester the Molester is now a thing, and it'll work amazing with the consumer class I've come up with, just still tweaking it though, other than that this race will work wonders for my anti player character. Vladius (talk) 10:50, 16 February 2016 (MST)

Managed to not really think about how much of a difference a 15-ft speed makes, but hell, I remember complaining about having 25 ft when playing a halfling. :/ They do have prone immunity and the bite attack, but they also do have the armor thing. Could give them their acid immunity back, maybe? I dunno... they are basically a mutated version of a Mimic in the first place, I guess, and just bringing their speed up would simplify things... I'll think on it. (Really oughta get around to working on that Kenku thing I was talking about for so long, though) Knowlessman (talk) 22:32, 20 October 2016 (MDT)

Note to self: Also need History and Society paragraphs. :/ Knowlessman (talk) 22:37, 20 October 2016 (MDT)

Re: Adhesive buff, and the removal thereof: I almost ended up making it an auto-grapple (as in the MM entry) to simplify it, but then I realized A: there is nothing stopping a Mimic from walking around and attacking while still in object form, and B: while it does that, it can potentially be dragging around multiple enemies like a super-powered tug boat. I think that's ridiculous enough without empowering it further, especially considering many mimics are probably going to end up getting the Grappler feat to capitalize on Adhesive anyway. (Naturally, I only realize now that the person who made that edit was some rando anon with no other listed contributions who'll probably never check back here anyway.) Knowlessman (talk) 23:20, 24 June 2017 (MDT)

Some notes, One is the bite,a d6 is too much for a natural weapon for any type of player race. As dealing 1d6 unarmed damage is as much as a monk does at level 5, giving your race a level 5 ability and something specific to a single class is generally not a good idea, it is too strong, making it a d4 should be no problem. Grappling as one size larger, once more is very much OP, as 5e is not build around the idea of characters or creatures that are large, very simply because the grappling mechanic becomes too strong, as with one enlarge your character can grapple creatures of any size, 100 ft by 100ft? no problem its gargantuan only one size larger then you, so you can grapple it. It makes these rules a hastle to deal with and you would need to come up with entirely new mechanics for this. A fix for this would be to give them advantage on grappling instead--RedHawk007 (talk) 04:24, 18 October 2018 (MDT)

Re: bite: Just for the sake of mentioning it, the Unearthed Arcana minotaur does a d10. Knowlessman (talk) 21:54, 21 January 2019 (MST)