Talk:Master of Two Weapons (5e Subclass)

Balance Issues

gets to many feats/abilities(2 feats at level 1 is too many, a feat everyother level makes it far too strong)

eliminating the penalty for fighting with 2 weapons is fine, adding a bonus for doing it might be going too far

high base attack, 2 high saves, and 4 skills a level is way out of whack, maybe balance this with high BAB, 1 high save, and 2 skills/level--Ganre 23:12, 11 March 2009 (MDT)

You only get 3 Feats. The abilites at 1st level are feat like abilities yes but thy make wielding 2 scimitars easyer. I will change the saves and skills/level.

Fishman 6:27, 12 March 2009

I have balanced the class more, sorry it took so long but this class had a delicate balance to fix and it was not easy fixing the balance of this class. Please tell me if it needs any more work.

Fishman 14:43, 30 July 2009

Rating

Power - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because i feel it should have more bonuses toward feats even just fighter bonus feats because it is still a fighter class although i do understand it is a specialization but i am more refering to level 8 where it is lacking any kind of bonus. As well as with having monkey grip i was thinking about at level 2 possibly having oversized two weapon fighting. I also feel there should be more bonuses with an epic level maaster of two weapons. I also feel that it should maybe have more fortitude bonuses rather than just 3 at lvl 10. --173.245.50.158 22:07, 12 September 2011 (MDT)

Wording - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it is easily understandable and very easily applicable in most games where the dm allows it. --173.245.50.158 22:07, 12 September 2011 (MDT)

Formatting - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because i have actually been to three different groups that do not usually allow homebrews but because of the balanced nature of the master of two weapons i have been able to enjoy it on all my campaigns --173.245.50.158 22:07, 12 September 2011 (MDT)

The Formatting rating has nothing to do with the power or balance of a class, nor does your ability to play it in a group. I suggest invalidating the Formatting section. --Ganre 08:58, 19 April 2012 (MDT)

Flavor - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because having this prestige class before your epic choice and with the base fighter levels makes this character at level 20 a complete powerhouse easily able to go toe to toe with any two weapon barbarian or even a maxed out monster of same or higher level. --173.245.50.158 22:07, 12 September 2011 (MDT)

The flavor rating has nothing to do with the power or balance of a class. I suggest invalidating the flavor section. --Ganre 08:58, 19 April 2012 (MDT)

Rating

Power - <<<5>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --Zeitgeist 13:02, 23 January 2012

Wording - <<<4>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --Zeitgeist 13:02, 23 January 2012

Formatting - <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --Zeitgeist 13:02, 23 January 2012

Flavor - <<<3>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --Zeitgeist 13:02, 23 January 2012

The above rating provided no justification for it's rating. I suggest invalidating it. --Ganre 08:40, 19 April 2012 (MDT)

I don't understand. It's just a feat smashed into a subclass?

The bonuses this subclass gives are exactly the same as taking the two-weapon fighting feat. (draw/stow, AC bonus, and does not need to be light.) There are some other abilities in the mix later on in levels, but I'm not sure they belong. Some of those other abilities might make a nice feat, or perhaps toned down a fighting style that gives a bonus attack in some situations?

Anyways, I think this subclass needs to be rewritten.

Do you have any suggestion? Also, why exactly giving benefits granted by a feat is a bad thing? You can buy fighting styles with feats and this doesn't stop the Champion fighter of giving a fighting style at 10th level. Please sign your posts Anastacio (talk) 13:00, 22 December 2021 (MST)