Talk:Level 20 Reborn! (5e Variant Rule)

Hotfix

Lol Bard is the only class that has their gimmick start out as a Long Rest recharge but then changes it to a Short Rest recharge later, so I didn't see it coming. Still, a d20 inspiration die, though the weakest of all the changed features, is good enough when combined with Superior Inspiration and the Bard class (Which is already almost as good as Wizard, arguably better). --Supersmily5 (talk) 10:43, 21 March 2020 (MDT)

Honest Opinion

Yeah, I would completely disagree with opinion that warlock does not need any form of buff for eldritch master. Nine out of ten situations, if you can spend a whole minute uninterrupted for something, then you can spend a whole hour on short rest, so this capstone suffers from what monk suffers too, it would be very rarely used, if at all at some tables. Taking one level of something else, like bard or sorcerer, or even paladin would be always better, at least it would be consistent in its applications and benefits.--Cezaryx (talk) 05:08, 6 December 2021 (MST)

After further review, you are correct. Late game Warlock is lackluster, specifically because it's high level spells options aren't impressive and it's the only class in the game that gets one of each spells 6th-level and higher EACH, without any way to change that fate. There are two ways I'd alter the class, but it'd have to go beyond changing level 20 alone. I'd say Warlock needs a level 18 subclass feature AND an improved level 20 feature. This ruleset doesn't overhaul the entire class however, so on its own you'd need some extreme heavy lifting to make it viable over multiclassing. I submit to thee two options. You can either activate Eldritch Master as a bonus action or you can learn one additional Mystic Arcanum of your choice (It counts as an additional Arcanum, not a separate way to spend the ones you already have. This means you could cast two spells of that level, probably 9th, which I think would be fair since you technically aren't compatible with the Boon of High Magic.). --Supersmily5 (talk) 14:25, 11 December 2021 (MST)