Talk:Langmesser (5e Equipment)

First--you're comparing a langmesser to a longsword when I believe such a comparison is more in line with a kreigmesser. Second--reach on a charge doesn't make sense for a messer. It's at best longsword size, which begs the question of why the greatsword doesn't get any kind of reach at all. Third--by pure statistics, this is a longsword-but-better. —Salasay ♄ 22:23, 1 April 2023 (MDT)

I'll defer to you on the comparison of the knives since they were meant to circumvent avoiding being branded as swords. The added charge effect was mostly a bitty I took and ran from the verb to extend. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual weapon's real-life applications. And yes, I think this and the kriegsmesser page are longsword with a bit of extra. The granularity of their difference from official weapons in actual application is quite small, so it got magnified in mechanics to differentiate them. But if it makes them redundant or pointless, they can be deleted.--Yanied (talk) 20:22, 3 April 2023 (MDT)

I tend to err on the side of just reskinning things. Offical art (and fantasy art in general--*shudder*) varies so aggressively on how it depicts this sword vs that sword that the typological distinction between a Longsword and what is essentially it's German equivalent is... minor.

Now, I'm not going to say there's no room for a weapon built on the mechanical bones presented here, just that it ain't really a messer. —Salasay ♄ 04:11, 4 April 2023 (MDT)

Pretty much. 5e in particular doesn't have as much variety in granular mechanics to differentiate between closely related weapons like swords and messers unless you actually add some funny attachment that drastically changes it. I guess by extension the kriegsmesser is also redundant.--Yanied (talk) 19:06, 4 April 2023 (MDT)