Talk:Hetzi Dracon (5e Race)

Regarding Flavor Help request

This looks, from the image, to be another one of those half-dragon things where people want to be a flying anthro dragon. What are any special lore bits here I can work with, or even physical specialties, that they have which makes them unique from something like dragonkin, or a winged dragonborn?--Yanied (talk) 11:35, 23 September 2021 (MDT)

Whatever, I just strung something up. The traits need a lot of fixing on wording so I'll probably look closer.--Yanied (talk) 13:38, 23 September 2021 (MDT)

Sorry, I didn't get a notification you posted here, but yeah, I didn't really have anything to go with. Thank you so much though! Its better than anything I could've done! Bowler1234 (talk) 14:55, 23 September 2021 (MDT)

No problem. Glad you like it.--Yanied (talk) 21:43, 23 September 2021 (MDT)

On Balance

I agree with Swanky's note on the roar. It seems a bit strange, and definitely a bit overpowered considering they also get breath and flight. From official races, aarakocra only get flight and a natural weapon. Leonin get the roar and claws with some other small things like skills. Even UA dragonborn gets momentary immunity only along with their ancestry of resistance and breath based on proficiency. I think at most maybe two of the traits can be used, but not all three at once.--Yanied (talk) 13:44, 24 September 2021 (MDT)

Well, the fear can probably be reduced down to 1 minute, but maybe the roar can only be part of some subraces and and spellcasting be a part of others? Since I don't want this to be a perfect cover-up of dragonborn/leonin/aarakocra, so maybe flight/breath weapon be part of all of them, but fear be 2 and spell casting be three, and the fear would use the breath attack slot for that rest. Bowler1234 (talk) 19:04, 24 September 2021 (MDT)

Splitting it by subrace seems good.--Yanied (talk) 23:03, 24 September 2021 (MDT)

I made the ones I imagine as more "cunning" have the spells, and the ones that I always imagine raiding villages have a small roar. IIRC the leonin's is ten feet, so this is five more feet but at the cost of hitting friendlies... Bowler1234 (talk) 08:45, 25 September 2021 (MDT)

Actually not only is it 5 feet more but this also lasts a whole minute... which is much more than a leonin's...--Yanied (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2021 (MDT)

Do we have too many abilities? I feel like we could drop some, cause right now it overshadows Aarakocra, Dragonborn, Tieflings, and Leonin. Any way we could fix that? Bowler1234 (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2021 (MDT)

So it combines the spellcasting of a tiefling and breath of a dragon for some, while others have breath + roar. Spellcasting makes the casting subraces automatically better than the non-casters, since they get a free cantrip. Compared to other races, particularly Fizban's rewrite of the original dragonborn, the hetzi are maybe only a wee bit stronger? They lack the damage resistance and have to recharge their breath more. But the hetzi breath scales better.

I guess you could take out some of the spells and maybe make it only one or two spells that aren't cantrips, so they require recharge? Maybe also cut down on the flying speed? And if needed, take out the natural weapons.--Yanied (talk) 21:41, 28 September 2021 (MDT)

One last thing! Nomenclature

What would be a good set of recommended names for the Hetzi Dracon? Bowler1234 (talk) 08:27, 26 September 2021 (MDT)

I think maybe something derived from draconic, so take dragonborn names as inspiration?--Yanied (talk) 20:54, 26 September 2021 (MDT)