Talk:Gritaur (3.5e Race)

Keeping the LA Low

I love your race. Bird people rock. Just to let you know, I corrected some typos and linked some things. Nothing major. If I can say one thing...I think you should jack up their LA by 1. They are a bit over-powered at the moment. Other than that though, great race! --Eonir 10:11, 20 September 2009 (MDT)

Do you have any suggestions about how to make them better balanced while remaining LA+1? I'd rather not push it up higher, ECL3 is problematic enough when making a new character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sabelkatten (talk • contribs) 12:58, 20 September 2009 (MDT). Please sign your posts.

Noticed it said kind instead of king in the personality section, refering to whom they listen and fixed. --Sevant 09:31, 30 September 2009 (MDT)

First off, they have 2 levels in monstrous humanoid...that already jacks their LA up by 2...if your fine with that, and want to keep the base LA at +1, then this is what you need to do...

1. Get rid of the "Prehensile Tail" ability. They can still have a tail, but not a useful one.
2. Change their ability bonus' to +2 dex and con, instead of what they currently have.
3. No more rake and pounce.

If you need anything else just ask! --Eonir 19:33, 21 September 2009 (MDT)

I've looked at the "ECL calculator", which puts them with their current stats at ECL 3, close to 4... OTOH the ECL "rules" doesn't seem to be very well thought out, so maybe it's actually higher.

Lower stats seem like a good idea, at least strength (the "sort of large" advantage gives them most of the bonuses I wanted anyway). WIS doesn't add that much, but they are supposed to be extremely attentive and a WIS bonus does that.

About the other advantages they all require feats to be used, doesn't that pretty much negate their value? --Sabelkatten 13:38, 30 September 2009 (MDT)

Not necessarily. And if you want to make them "attentive", just give them alertness as a bonus feat. --Eonir 19:07, 30 September 2009 (MDT)

Dropped the STR and WIS bonuses, added alertness feat. Kept the special abilities, but I'm thinking about dropping the natural armor bonus to +1.--Sabelkatten 15:28, 7 October 2009 (MDT)

Good idea :D--Eonir 17:20, 7 October 2009 (MDT)

Updated and modified

Deciding to aim low rather than high I dropped the Alertness feat and reduced natural armor bonus to +1. I also added in the bonus four legs gives to resist certain attacks (should have been included before).

I also added a note that the GM should give a +2 WIS bonus if flying won't provide a significant benefit in his campaign. Adding that around level 8-10 should keep gritaurs competetive when other characters start picking up flying mounts and flight-providing magical objects. --Sabelkatten 08:46, 29 November 2009 (MST)

That seems to work fine.--Eonir 10:37, 29 November 2009 (MST)