Talk:Godhood (3.5e Epic Spell)

Godhood should always be discussed with the DM, and if she decides that it is possible then she determines the method.

It may well be that an Epic spell like this is how she wants to handle it it, but it's going to be campaign specific. As such, I would argue that the spell be allowed in homebrew, with the above caveat made clear. Marasmusine (talk) 06:29, 29 April 2013 (MDT)

True though I was actually thinking of the idea that this is an end run around. If there is something that must happen to become a god it should be more like a ritual as some of the elevated individuals (like st. cutbert) were not magic classes. However I read this as an end run around the requirements in order to become a deity. Tivanir (Speak to me) (talk) 07:01, 29 April 2013 (MDT)

Obviously this should be discussed with the DM - I thought it was a common rule to consult your DM before using homebrew spells or powers. Also, Getting a chunk of a god AND an artifact from that god will be pretty darn hard. I'm still open for ideas, though. Hit me up. -Guy who made the spell

Dear Tivanir: I think you have very valid points, and I will consider editing it further to balance the power/difficulty ratio. However, please remember that this would have to be reviewed and accepted by a D&D way before actual usage, and that there exist homebrew rules and opinions beyond your own. My response to your points: 1. Untrue - that is merely a traditional thing that is easily changed through homebrew rules. 2. Then what if there actually WERE a ton of gods? That can be changed too. Or maybe there is some kind of rule with the gods where you're only mentionable if you are a naturally-made god. All in all, it's not really an important point. 3. Then the person would obviously think of ways to counter-act that. This one isin't even an argument, it's just problem of whether the party members are smart enough to plan ahead.Finally, the opinion that you can't make yourself a god is completely your own. Just because you may play with one way doesn't mean you can eliminate other people's way of playing, aka delete their page. Thank you for your input, but next time you want to erase a page, either have a very good reason for it or consider discussing it before trying to have it removed. P.S. I am not trying to appear hostile, I merely am making my points. I apologize if you are offended by it. - Guy who made the spell

I'm removing the deletion tag for now, and moving Tivanir's rationale here:

This is bad for the following reasons: 1. When you become a god it is because a certain number of people worship you and call upon you for protection and guidance. 2. If it was just a spell there would be tons of gods. 3. Once you start casting this most deities would show up and remove you and anyone cocky enough to help from reality. There is no reason for this to exist - you can't simply wish yourself into god hood, nor should you be able to. If you want to be a god you need to put in the leg work.

To expand on my comment above, it is true that a DM should approve of any homebrew material. However, some material has more of an impact on the game world than others. A player asking if they can take a feat from the NBOF isn't unobjectionable, those could fit into any campaign. But a DM probably already has an idea of how godhood is achieved in their story. Ideally this spell would be a supplement for a campaign, rather than in the general list of epic spells. Marasmusine (talk) 00:24, 13 May 2013 (MDT)