Talk:Gambeson Variant (5e Equipment)

Gambeson is a type of padded armor. It really doesn't make sense for this to give 13 + Dex since there is no way that quilted cloth could be as effective of protection as a chain shirt. --PJammaz (talk) 14:27, 26 March 2020 (MDT)

The problem with padded armor is that it has weaknesses actual gambeson doesn't have. Apparently according the Shadiversity (A YouTube channel specializing in fantastical use of historical items, including but not limited to their use in D&D) the clothing armor is much more capable than leather, and not as noisy (Cloth doesn't make any significant noise easily so if it was padded armor that wouldn't make any sense). I myself am not an expert of historical armor so I can't claim to know everything on the subject and am willing to concede if deemed necessary. At a minimum, it could be padded armor that doesn't provide disadvantage to stealth checks could be proper gambeson, but that wouldn't warrant a page. Also, this page is a variant because of the partial armor ruleset also having a version of gambeson. --Supersmily5 (talk) 20:49, 26 March 2020 (MDT)

A gambeson would still restrict you enough that you should have disadvantage on stealth checks. It is like wearing a very heavy, thick winter coat and would make it more difficult to move stealthily. As far as having a higher AC, it may be better than leather, but I don't think there is any way it is better than studded leather. --PJammaz (talk) 21:21, 26 March 2020 (MDT)

Hmm... I don't know. I'm not personally well-versed enough in the subject to say for certain. This page was based on information I got from other sources (Namely the above YouTube channel) which claim otherwise. Your comparison doesn't seem accurate, as gambeson weighs about as much as leather armor in game (And a winter coat has never stopped me from hiding, but it also wouldn't weigh 10 lbs.). As for its stopping power, I'm now wondering what studs even add to leather armor that's so significant, but that's a different issue that I would need more personal research to figure out. I leave the page in your hands. --Supersmily5 (talk) 19:56, 27 March 2020 (MDT)