Talk:Ethereal Hunter (3.5e Class)

Polishing

Ok, I've got everything done with my new class and everything is up for it. The only problems I'm having now are actually understanding what I'm doing wrong for my class to adhere to the rules. Some assistance would be helpful, here is the class Ethereal Hunter (3.5e Class). Thanks in advance, Omen 19:20, 15 May 2009 (MDT)

Ok, well.. One thing that I think is that you should list all the ranger abilities in your class features (even if it just says 'as ranger ability') and/or change the link in the table to go to that anchor. You could copy the weapon and armor proficiency from the ranger's page. There are other places where you have 'as ranger' where you could just put a description in (people don't want to have to look at two pages at once). And there are <-the appropriate skills-> and <-class name-> Spells Known that you have to fix up. :) --Sabre070 19:28, 15 May 2009 (MDT)

Thanks for the feedback and yes I have considered inserting the information from the ranger instead of just linking it. The problem that I had was if I just replaced "ranger" with "ethereal hunter" then I would feel like I'm ripping it off or plagiarizing. I would gladly put in all of the information and replace the two words, but I just felt it was the basic form of plagiarizing (which is a bad feeling to me). With permission I would add the information and probably add my two cents to the descriptions.Omen 17:55, 18 May 2009 (MDT)

Prestige Class

Given the requirements, wouldn't it make more sense if this were a prestige class? -- Jota 20:27, 15 May 2009 (MDT)

Either that or just make this class a ranger variant and get rid of the requirements. Base classes should not have any entry requirements beyond alignment. Even alignment is an "after entry" requirement. —Sledged (talk) 21:59, 15 May 2009 (MDT)

• Thoughts: Yes, I gave this part of classification a lot of thought before choosing Base Class instead of both a variant of the ranger class and a Prestige Class. Now I am reconsidering changing it to a Prestige class. I would have to say that I find it too powerful to be a variant of the ranger class and possibly even for a Base Class. The problem is that this class is a mutation and not a class that can just be added like fighter or a regular Prestige Class. In a way, it is similar to Lycanthropy but it is not a disease so much as a life choice. The ranger chooses to keep a portion of the poison in his blood and the extraordinary abilities are innate abilities of the ethereal hunter; they just know how to use them all of a sudden. A level 15 ranger who chooses the path of the ethereal hunter gains all the benefits he would have gotten through leveling up from level 1 as an ethereal hunter. I don't know if you can actually replace levels of one class for equal levels of another without a wish or divine intervention but that's what I tried to do with the poison. I set the requirements up so that classes like the fighter or monk couldn't become nigh on gods as far as abilities go. I thought of the ranger as being a little bit of everything but not as strong as anything, so I "upgraded" him to have an edge that a fighter can't match with the sword or a wizard can't out-do in ability. Yes the ethereal hunter becomes close to untouchable with the Phase Shift at will ability but it's there for two good reasons; to balance out his weaknesses, and because a ranger just seemed a bit too spread out over his options to be that good. A fighter makes a better ranger as far as giving and taking damage goes. After careful reconsideration it might actually be better to make this a Prestige Class instead of a variant or a Base Class, but it will be somewhat unique in design. The requirements must be there and the class replacement makes the ethereal hunter as powerful as it is. Making it a Prestige Class will likely throw the concept to the winds because there are so many PrC's though. I've sifted through the list and found not one PrC like it although there are about 7 incomplete or inadequate ranger PrC's.
• Summary: This class should be made into a Prestige Class, but the rules it follows will be a bit different to other classes as far as leveling. The requirements should stay the same and the ranger level replacement part is a must if people don't want to have to dig into the epic levels before they "finish" leveling the class. Thanks for the feedback; will keep it in mind for the future.

--Omen 18:55, 18 May 2009 (MDT)