Talk:Deann-Trù (3.5e Creature)

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can someone help me finish this? HD is so confusing. --DeadlyNightShade 10:11, 14 October 2006 (MDT)

I'd recommend asking someone like Sledged or Dmilewski, they know monsters better than I do. --Green Dragon 11:43, 15 October 2006 (MDT)

ok i'll do that --DeadlyNightShade 07:57, 19 October 2006 (MDT)

First the die size for HD is based on the type (or in some cases the augemented subtype). This creature's type is monstrous humanoid, so it should use a d8. From there you just add the hit points due to Constitution [(Con modifier) x (# of HD)]. So instead of having "16d6+100 (156 hp)", this creature should have "16d8 (72 hp)". —Sledged 11:35, 20 October 2006 (MDT)

and the would be a HD of 16 or d8? --DeadlyNightShade 08:25, 31 October 2006 (MST)

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Are asking how many HD it should have? Are you asking what size die it should use? Or are you asking something different altogether. —Sledged 11:08, 31 October 2006 (MST)

Well i was looking at how to create a creature in the back of the Monster manual and well it says things like CR are decided by HD --DeadlyNightShade 18:53, 10 November 2006 (MST)

Among other things such as special abilities, abilities scores, racial bonuses, etc... I'm still not sure what you're asking. —Sledged 11:15, 30 November 2006 (MST)

I think he is asking what the CR should be, using the HD it has. --Green Dragon 13:04, 30 November 2006 (MST)

You don't base CR on HD. Confusing, but true. You actually need to compare this against other creatures and make a judgment call. Currently, there isn't enough information, though 72 HP is awfully low for a CR16 unless the creature is strongly magical. --Dmilewski 05:54, 7 December 2006 (MST)

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During categorization, I noticed that the creature was typed incorrectly. I changed the creature to Outsider (Extraplanar). I categorized its plane as Evil Aligned-Plane, but I left the actual Environment entry the same. See Outsider Type (SRD Creature Type). Also see Demon (SRD Creature). --Dmilewski 05:54, 7 December 2006 (MST)

thanks and it's not quite done, and it's supost to be a psionic creature once i'm done with it --DeadlyNightShade 07:22, 10 December 2006 (MST)

Cool. Hope to see the finished critter. Whatever you decide in the end, remember to update the categories. If it is still an outsider, the category could be Outsider (Extraplanar, Psionic). If it is an outsider that usually lives on the prime material plane, it would be Outsider (Native, Psionic). --Dmilewski 11:00, 10 December 2006 (MST)

What if it's and outsider that usually lives in the plane of shadows?(i'm changing it's location) --DeadlyNightShade 08:02, 16 December 2006 (MST)

Ummmm... You got me. Magical Beast or Monstrous Humanoid is my guess. Mabye Outsider (Native). --Dmilewski 13:28, 16 December 2006 (MST)

A creature has the extraplanar subtype anytime it's on a plane other than the following ones: the Astral Plane, the Ethereal Plane, the Plane of Shadow, and the creature's native plane. So a creature native to the Plane of Shadow only has three planes where it doesn't have the extraplanar subtype (Astral, Ethereal, and Shadow. And the same is true for creatures native to the Astral and Ethereal Planes). Since "monster entries assume that encounters with creatures take place on the Material Plane," any creature (not just outsiders) native to the Plane of Shadow, will have the extraplanar subtype in its write-up.

Also, not all creatures native to planes other than the Prime Material have the outsider type. Creatures of any type can be native to any plane (with the possible exception of animals). The outsider type (somewhat like aberration) is a catch-all for creatures not native to the Prime Material Plane that don't fit any of the other types. —Sledged 15:33, 16 December 2006 (MST)

thanks, i think i'll keep it as it is right now though --DeadlyNightShade 19:25, 17 June 2007 (MDT)

Spelling ...

I'm not sure what ‘altera’ is supposed to be other than that it is not the intended word. Also, I don't think I understand the intent of the phrase ‘though twice the side of the ones’ to fix it without potentially changing the meaning. It looks like ‘side’ should be ‘size’ but after staring for a while I'm not so sure that the comment wasn't meant to refer to some quality of the side. Roszlishan 09:27, 11 December 2007 (MST)

Yeah thank you for pointing that out, it was meant to be ultra.--DeadlyNightShade 19:26, 18 December 2007 (MST)