Talk:Apotheosis Chrysalis (3.5e Epic Spell)

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Suggestion[edit]

You should add a very rare material component or make the spell harder to learn, it godhood after all. And my archmage can learn it easily (and we don't want that to happen, no we don't! :)--Lord Dhazriel 18:18, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

You have an artifact made by a GOD? Okay, I'll add something else... Do you have a piece of the sun lying around your archmage's tower? Noname 18:20, 7 April 2008 (MDT)
A piece of sun, no i swear i don't own that, i may try to steal one from Ghanadel but it risky... especially to carry, ouch! --Lord Dhazriel 20:24, 7 April 2008 (MDT)
I'm sure it can be fit into a magical container. Noname 21:15, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

You should probably note the Factors and Seeds before someone else does it for you. Just suggesting.

Origin[edit]

The cocoon is similar to one used by Adam Warlock, a marvel comics character. Noname 18:20, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

Actual costs are much lower[edit]

You intended to make the material and focus costs high. Adamantine doesn't have a listed cost, however, nor does a piece of the sun. The book says: "Unless a cost is given for a material component, the cost is negligible. Don’t bother to keep track of material components with negligible cost. Assume you have all you need as long as you have your spell component pouch." You don't even need Eschew Materials.

By the time you can cast this, you can also Polymorph Any Object yourself into a Fine creature such as a gnat. (Worried about loss of intelligence? Make an ice assassin minion of yourself. Have them PAO you back into your previous form when you emerge.) So the actual amount of adamantine you need is enough to make a thimble.

Bring in the NBoF and you can use Eschew Divine Focus too, leaving the actual cost of this ritual a ten-minute casting time and 20,000 xp. Not sure how much you care about balancing for other homebrew material.

Regarding the flavor text: who would actually say "elven female"? No elf would describe herself like that. I'd be shocked if there were a more powerful spell in the game, so the qualifier is rather out of place.

24.56.251.233 15:14, 25 January 2016 (MST)

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