User talk:Infadel

I want to build an ogre mage to use dark speech , with but i cant get his base will save to 5 . please help

An ogre mage is a giant, which has poor Will saves. For a base Will of +5, he would need 15 Hit Dice. I'm not sure what "dark speech" is - is the base Will an prerequisite? Marasmusine (talk) 01:11, 31 March 2013 (MDT)

hey i need help with a character build 3.5 , i want an ogre mage with the feat dark speech but how do i raise his base will save to 5? if you have any ideas email me nomadicking@gmail.com

yes it says prerequisite base will save +5