Talk:Vurcar (3.5e Race)

LA +1?

Maybe I'm missing something, but there don't seem to be any drawbacks to this race, and there are a lot of pros. Isn't a level adjustment of +1 kind of really low? Wyrm 16:45, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Grey Elf's better. --TK-Squared 17:19, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Vurcar have +4 STR and +2 INT and NO negatives? Wyrm 20:24, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Yep. --TK-Squared 20:50, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Do you see why I think that's unbalanced? What's balancing the large amount of positive stat adjustments? Wyrm 20:52, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

The LA 1 probably. Suck to be a LA race and get screwed by lack of power.--Lord Dhazriel 21:36, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Well if you had a level one Vurcar fighting against a level one Tiefling, I think the Vurcar would win without breaking a sweat. It's not balanced at all to have +6 stat adjustments and no negative racial traits to speak of. Wyrm 22:09, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Well... the tiefling got many other goodies. Like outsider type, alter self become suddenly very useful! Oh yeha and a Lolth-Touched Human got +6 Str +6 Con, fearlessness, all human benefits and only LA 1. If you want to compare with WotC Stuff then we need to compare it with the strongets not the weakest, or at least both. Tiefling is low LA 1m it is weak. Lolth-Touched is a strong one.--Lord Dhazriel 23:05, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

Yeah, well a Lolth-Touched Human is not very balanced then. If that weren't published work I would attempt to raise its level adjustment also. Wyrm 23:15, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

LA is horrible and should be forgotten. --Lord Dhazriel 23:20, 10 April 2009 (MDT)

I agree — this is not balanced. Personally I feel that either some racial hit die need to be added (to increase the ECL) or the LA needs to be raised. Or this needs to be toned down. And one cannot use the argument of "let's compare this to the strongest WotC has to offer" because then everything should be compared to Pun-Pun. --Green Dragon 07:23, 11 April 2009 (MDT)

Half-Ogre, Half-Minotaur, Feral, Lloth-Touched? Lesser Tiefling, Lesser Aasimar? Maybe you shouldn't focus on things that are awful? Whisper Gnomes, Water Orcs, Gray Elves? --TK-Squared 12:19, 11 April 2009 (MDT)