Talk:Valgora (3.5e Campaign Setting)

This is the precursor to the adapted and altered Valgora Ultima campaign utilizing the QAGS system, and information provided here should not be used with that sourcebook (release date: 03/16/10).

Rating

Advice on what needs to be added/changed, etc. to make this a 5er would be much appreciated.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   15:27, 24 November 2008 (MST)

For one thing most of the supplement pages do not have breadcrumbs or have the incorrect breadcrumb. --Green Dragon 09:01, 29 November 2008 (MST)

What is the coding for the proper one and I'll fix them asap.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   10:09, 29 November 2008 (MST)

It depends on how deep they are. For the pages which are linked to from this page it would be: "Back to Main Page → Dungeons and Dragons → Campaign Settings → Valgora" (although the coding would use a template Template:3.5e Valgora Setting Breadcrumb (coding {{3.5e Campaign Settings Breadcrumb}} → [[Valgora (3.5e Campaign Setting)|Valgora]])). --Green Dragon 12:34, 30 November 2008 (MST)

However you still need the categories, the two blank lines before the breadcrumb, and the four dashes before the breadcrumb. Sorry for not clarifying that earlier. --Green Dragon 13:51, 30 November 2008 (MST)

Ah. I see what you're getting at now. Will fix.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   14:16, 30 November 2008 (MST)

I changed the rating to 5/5. Although this still needs a bit of work, I feel that it is on par with the other 5/5 campaign settings. --Green Dragon 11:17, 3 December 2008 (MST)

Wow. Its just getting started. I didn't expect to have any change for quite some time. Thanks. Still taking comments, still got alot to add.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   12:20, 3 December 2008 (MST)

Inclusion of Everything

The various pages need to be changed to stop including everything on the wiki. Such as the race page, which somehow includes every race on the wiki. That's both 3e and 4e races. Yep. That's both extremely annoying and extremely useless. And the equipment page. A setting that is supposed to mirror the greco-roman age of earth has plasma pistols, plasma grenades, and zero-point energy field manipulators? Are you kidding me? Until this is done, I'm changing the rating on the page to a 3. Surgo 17:28, 7 April 2009 (MDT)

This was addressed, and it is like that for a reason. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit your taste. I've also edited your language in your post and reverted your rating. The rating was proper and from Green himself. (Note: If I'm wrong in that, someone say so. Don't mind it being lowered as long as its for the right reasons)   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   16:25, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

So where in Valgora can I buy a plasma pistol and a zero-point energy field manipulator? And where in Valgora can I find members of the Ganteka race? What about Aurabots and Decepticons? Maybe a couple TK-Squareds while we're at it? In addition, please don't edit my posts. I don't see any policy on the wiki that states that I am not allowed to swear. Surgo 16:28, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

As I know for a fact numerous of our younger QCO members come to this area of the wiki, I see no need for language. Also, any good DM can use any part of the world for these things. If you clearly read this setting, it has areas specifically designed to have that, and it also has a major object related to time travel so that the setting can be changed in regards to technology levels.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   16:30, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

So what percentage of Finlay county in Valgora is made up of Aurabots and Decepticons? What percentage of the Rendigo population is TK-Squareds? I mean, I'm pretty sure that TK-Squareds worship the [[Sheep The Head (DnD Deity)]] which doesn't even exist in this setting so this is a pretty valid question. Surgo 16:34, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

Yawn. If the DM wants something, then it is here for their optional inclusion. If you note, things are broken into main, specific Valgorian things, and then generic options. I.e. Main Races which include your basic races available in most standard generic settings, and then optional upon the dm's wish stuff is listed, which is all the great content available here on D&D wiki. Much like every single book in D&D that isn't core all of that stuff is optional upon the DM's discretion. It is really a quite simple thing to understand. You should note the numerous repetitive mentions that the DM can include/not include/alter/add to this as their wish (rule o). That is stated for a reason. X Island is included for the DM's use as 'whatever-they-want-it-to-be'.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   16:40, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

Then what the hell is the point of including them all in the text? Could we maybe just put a link to 3.5e Races if we wanted to tell people that maybe Ðèäth Äñgè‡s are available in the campaign setting? (Or just say "If a player wants to use something on the wiki, double check and make sure it fits in your game" without including everything, but apparently this option is unliked.) Wouldn't that be just as convenient? It would sure make certain administrative and bot tasks like checking for backlinks a lot easier, what without have 5 different campaign settings thoughtlessly including every single page on the wiki. Surgo 16:44, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

Now, that brings up a valid point. And yes, it would be just as effective. Would probably also make each page load easier for those with slow or bad connections. I like that idea. I'll alter the text with links and such starting with this CS.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   16:45, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

Excellent, that really is all I wanted. Thank you. Surgo 16:47, 8 April 2009 (MDT)

Campaign setting originality

I was just wondering, is this campaign setting original, or is it based off of one that was already made? If not, you really went all out, adding book covers and everything. :D--Vrail 01:42, 11 May 2010 (UTC)