Talk:Taiian (3.5e Race)

I greatly appreciate any constructive criticisms and useful changes to my race. I wanted to create a four-armed, humanoid race as close to a LA+0 as possible, and still represent the goddess in Deities and Demigods accordingly. I'm aware that the personality isn't written, but it seems to be on a different computer at the moment.

Thanks again. --ALL'E-K (talk)

Criticisms

I haven't been given any criticisms, and no one has commented or edited my creation, so I asked a longtime GM and friend to give his input. As the result, I've confirmed that my race would in fact have an unfortunate LA+1 due to its multiple limbs (and the 1.5 STR modifier to DMG therewith). I've cleaned up a lot of the wordiness, and clarified the function pertaining to some of the abilities by renaming them to match already written abilities of the same effect.

Thanks go to Galo for all his helpful collaboration. --ALL'E-K (talk)

Yea, your DM is correct, 4 arms is a minimum of +1 LA, but so is powerful build, and the Halo of Light ability. Given that the race has a sum of -2 on it's ability scores, I'd rate this as a +2 LA race. --Ganre (talk) 11:09, 21 January 2014 (MST)

Thank you so much for responding. I greatly appreciate the feedback in my race. I've been trying to respond, but couldn't remember my password, and felt uneasy leaving a reply as a stranger or visitor. Since my group still plays 3.5e occasionally, and since the taiian is my personal pet project and an excitingly new addition to not only my DM's world, but now also the worlds of three of my friends and even some of their extended friends, I'd appreciate your feedback in completing this project, and making the taiian a truly viable option for players the world over. That said, I understand the multiple limbs because of the "more attacks than a fighter of equal level" statement in some book I read some place. Makes perfect sense. No argument or question there.

With powerful build, I can't help but notice that every creature that possesses the ability also seems to have a sum of +2 or greater on its ability scores in addition to some number of featured abilities (Natural Armor, bonus power points, free powers, etc.). For my better understanding, where does the level adjustment come in regarding this ability? To note: I have no problem scrapping the powerful build —I was simply trying to get the race to mimic the exuberant strength of the deity after whom they're designed. For balance purposes, I figured some things may be slightly off-putting, and so (as has been written since the insurrection of the race) included the statement of some of the features of the powerful build only being available when the taiian takes advantage of the feature using all four limbs. I figured that would be the best way to stop munchkins from using four large-size category weapons in combat. I'd love your thoughts on this.

Your "Halo of Light" confuses me... since the asherati have the exact ability [from a combination of racial effects: Body Lamp (Su) and a free bonus feat (Heat Endurance)] as stated in the taiian, and do not constitute a level adjustment; I'm just curious how you came up with that. Should I, instead of summing up the two abilities into one racial feature, separate them, and refer to them as they're written by WotC for a more congruent balance to reduce the potential level adjustment by that additional +1?

Again, thank you so very much for your input, and thank you for helping me finalize my race before I get too cocky, and throw up some artwork and sample NPCs. --ALL'E-K (talk) 01:48, 5 August 2014 (MDT)