Talk:Ruler (5e Race)

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Thank you so much, ConcealedLight! Your help with the page is greatly improved and I think all of your changes are positive~! The idea of the Shogun subrace was great and I hope I'll be able to work on it with you in the future ^^ ~xjax1

Thank you. Let us continue to work on this as I think it is prety good and I believe you have a way with words that I am still developing myself. As such I encourage you to complete the lore sections of the race as I'm looking forward to what you write(Though make sure to follow the 5e_Race_Design_Guide on the way it should be written). Also by adding four of these like so "~~~~" you can automatically sign your comments like I'm about to do. ConcealedLight (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2018 (MST)
Thank you so much for the advice! I'm New to the site and D&D as a whole, actuslly this was my first post on the site I prep for my first campaign ^^; so I'm glad you like it. Xjax1 (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2018 (MST)

Hmm, tactics, I think for this we should turn to be fighter, in Xanthars(not sure I spelled that right) guide to everything don't they have something to do wth tactics and leadership? Or is that in the base players handbook? Either way, it would be a good start. Xjax1 (talk) 01:33, 15 January 2018 (MST)

Good point. However, since this is a race let us only use it as a point of reference rather than something we mimic. As we don't want to inhibit a player who wants to play a shogun ruler as a fighter samurai. If anything we should make it so that they are slightly better at it. ConcealedLight (talk) 02:35, 15 January 2018 (MST)
Of course, I just though taking inspiration and using it as reference would be a very good place to start ^^ Xjax1 (talk) 02:37, 15 January 2018 (MST)
Sultan, Prophet and God-King could be other cool ruler types to go for. Sultan could be a more commerce focused. Prophet more about the hearts of the people with that divine sort of link. God-King could be more about domination through that same divine link. What do you think? ConcealedLight (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2018 (MST)
All of those are great ideas! I think they all have a lot of potential. I really like this race idea because of all the possibilities for subraces there are, and you can make them all feel pretty different, so it doesn't get stale playing the race ^^ Xjax1 (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2018 (MST)
Update: i know what we should do for the Shogun, the maneuvers from the fighter champion seem like a good place to start, we could have the shogun gain 3 different maneuvers that they can make once per day, nothing as good as the Fighter class but it would provide small advantages to their allies and to themselves. it seems like it fits well with the Shogun theme, i just need to think about the second ability ^^ Xjax1 (talk) 10:26, 15 January 2018 (MST)
Some good options would be tweaked versions of: Menacing Attack, Parry, Riposte, Precision Attack, Disarming Strike, Lunging Attack. I don't think giving them multiple would be a good options as we don't want to take too much from the fighter so only one. Which of these do you like for the Shogun sort of theme. ConcealedLight (talk) 13:24, 15 January 2018 (MST)
Precision attack and Parry seem like good options, both fit the theme somewhat, precision attack more so than parry ^^ Xjax1 (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2018 (MST)
I've added it in and finished with the sultan traits so all that leaves is the needsbalance template which is mostly talking about the lore and then the God-King traits. I will be offline for about a day so if you could write up the remaining bits of lore. Tell me what you think of the subraces so far and after you write the lore we can better match the traits if need be. ConcealedLight (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2018 (MST)

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--ConcealedLight (talk) 12:50, 17 February 2018 (MST)

Hehehe... your character can be a ruler ruler. That's pretty funny. Quincy (talk) 18:51, 15 September 2018 (MDT)

Ye :P. I brought this up with Vark before. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 06:27, 16 September 2018 (MDT)

Back Again[edit]

Hey! Sorry for seemingly abandoning this project! I got busy with classes and then depression and such, but I’m coming back to this and I see there is still some work to do~! That’s good, it would be a shame if it was finished while I was gone and I got no input XD anyway, I should be around now, thanks for all your work on it ConcealedLight! Xjax1 (talk)

I didn't expect you to return tbh... and I finished the page months ago. Regards though, what suggestions do you have in mind? —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 13:44, 5 October 2018 (MDT)
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