Talk:Parrying Dagger, Variant (5e Equipment)

I don't quite understand this.

"The parrying dagger does not count as an weapon or an shield. You still gain all benefits from abilitys like dueling "?

Next, repeated use of the word "ability". Abilities are Strength, Dexterity, etc.

And then, let me see if I understand the rest:

• I can parry an attack (including ranged and spell attacks).
• It uses my reaction
• It stops the attack.
• I make a DC 15 Dexterity saving throw.
• If I succeed I choose one of two options.
• 1) I parry an attack successfully (isn't that what I just did?)
  • I use my reaction (again?)
    • I get advantage on my first attack (with the parrying dagger? Another weapon? A spell? Against any target?).
• 2) I parry an attack (again?)
  • I use my reaction (again?)
    • "perfourm an melle attack" :(
      

Marasmusine (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

I think the first benefit is supposed to refer to the fighting style of the same name, even though that could already be used with shields. SirSprinkles (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Okay, firstly, get rid of the prerequisites. Feats are an optional mechanic, so if they're not being used, this dagger becomes an inert lump of metal. Weapons do not have an ability score prerequisite. If you want to show that you need additional training to use the parrying dagger, that's easy, you change it from a simple weapon to a martial weapon.

Next paragraph is quite jumbled. I understand it acts as shield while you are not attacking with it: but attacks are instantaneous, so you need to say how long it "switches" for. Something like: "You gain a +1 bonus to AC while holding the parrying dagger, and it is not considered to be a weapon for the purpose of features such as the dueling fighting style. When you make an attack with the parrying dagger, you do not gain those benefits until the start of your next turn."

Third paragraph. I'm sure you mean this to work only against melee weapon attacks (and not for example parrying a scorching ray or something). In the PHB there's a sort of established mechanic for parry-type effects. Look at the monk's deflect arrows, or the fighter's parry. What you're describing is more like a feint. Marasmusine (talk) 08:11, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

"fitnes". Is this supposed to be a reference to the Finesse weapon trait? There are also some capital letters missing and general wording issues (for example, "if you cant met" should be "If you don't meet"). SirSprinkles (talk) 10:01, 12 March 2017 (UTC)