Talk:Nemean Lion (5e Creature)

Azernath, this is a cool version of the mythological creature. Let me know when you've finished and I'll tidy up some of the grammar and mechanics (not even the tarrasque has d20 damage die!) Marasmusine (talk) 02:33, 11 March 2015 (MDT) I finished the main idea, but there are some things that bug me:

• The name is somewhat wrong because Nemea is a Greek village, so how is it going to fit in the world.
• Is the size Huge fit the creature?
• Should the alignment be chaotic or unaligned? because I want to make the creature ti have more character.
• Should it have an immunity or resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing from nonmagical weapons?
• Should the ability Thundering Roar be a damage dealing ability or a fear ability?
• Are the numbers correct or did I made some mistakes?

Azernath (talk) 22:50, 11 March 2015 (MDT)

I wouldn't worry about the name, we have minotaurs but no Minos! The DM can always rename it as they see fit. I'll take a look at the other issues later today. Marasmusine (talk) 02:18, 12 March 2015 (MDT)

Calculating CR

• Hit points: 100 hp * 2 (damage immunity) = 200 (CR 9)
• AC is 20 + 2 (Impenetrable Skin) = 20. This is a difference of 6 from the expected AC. We adjust the DCR up by (6÷2) = 3 (CR 3)
• Defensive Challenge Rating: (CR 12)
• Best average damage for one round is 58 (two claw attacks). The nemean lion does get a Pounce ability that give you a bite attack 25 damage, and 22 from Thundering Roar ability once, and 21 damage from Swallow ability for two turns. So we factor that in by taking the average over three rounds. (105 + + 79 + 79) ÷ 3 = (88). This gives us an OCR of 14 and an expected attack bonus of +8.
• The actual attack bonus is +4, so we adjust the OCR up by (4÷2) = 2.
• Offensive Challenge Rating: (CR 16)
• Final CR is (12+16)÷2 = (14)

Mythology Fact

Did you know that to defeat the Nemean Lion in mythology, what you would do is burn off the lion's fur coat, leaving it defenseless, then kill it like you would anything else? I only know that because I am a nerd. --Flamestarter (talk) 17:09, 12 February 2020 (MST)