Talk:Lightning Style (Shinobi World Supplement)

Is Tiger Scissors supposed to be hidden in the same way a normal bear trap would?--Jaydon105 (talk)

It can be, but like core 5e's bear trap equivalent, it doesn't have specific rulings. I suppose if you wanted to, you could use obscurement rules.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2023 (MST)

Do Lightning cloak and lightning chakra mode's costs stack? or is the maintenance cost just the cost listed under lightning armor?

They stack, this has been clarified on page, since spending 10 chakra just to activate it and spending another 5 every turn would drain way too quickly.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:34, 19 January 2023 (MST)

"If the roll is higher than the target's passive perception, then you gain a bonus to the attack roll equal to the amount of chakra spent." What exactly does this mean? Is it like if the roll is better than their passive perception but lower than their ac it hits? Also vanishing rasenshuriken seems a bit op to me, but I never actually get to play, so maybe that's just lack of experiance. Also for positive and negative raiju mode are they a seperate action, or can they just be tacked on when you go raiju mode? If they are a seperate action, what happens on their round 10 when raiju mode expires?

For Vanishing Rasengan, if you spend 4 chakra your attack roll is higher than the target's passive perception (10 + any bonuses they have to perception), you gain a +4 bonus (+2 after the most recent balance revision). Vanishing Rasenshuriken has been balanced; it was using an older version of Rasenshuriken's chakra disruption. The Raijū Modes should be much clearer now as well.--Ref3rence (talk) 19:18, 19 January 2023 (MST)

So just to make sure I have this right, if your initial attack role beat their ac, than the bonus does nothing right? So it's for if your roll is between their passive perception and ac. Also yup Raiju modes are definitely cleare now, though I think they should be a bonus action, since they are just amping another jutsu, especially since both raiju art and it's mode cost a lot of chakra. Same with lightning chakra mode, activating that on top of cloak feels like a bonus action. Either way, lightning definitely seems like the most fun nature to me, aside from maybe yin. Lot's of options with illusions. Basic stuff is cool too, but it's pretty much carried by the shadow clone jutsu.

Your reading of Vanishing Rasengan is correct. Changing those to bonus actions probably wouldn't change too much, so I might see about that.--Ref3rence (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2023 (MST)

So totally missed this before, but it takes 2 bonus actions in order for positive raiju mode to do anything? Maybe start in lightning form and you can end it as a free action, but starting it back up costs a bonus action. I feel like the restriction of jutsu is a big enough downside it doesnt need to take an action and 2 bonus actions to activate the effects. Also i'm assuming Raiju art is 1/4 rounded down? It doesn't actually say.--Azura (talk) 07:48, 28 January 2023 (MST)

This has been clarified on-page.--Ref3rence (talk) 11:36, 28 January 2023 (MST)

For Heavy-Style Outburst there is nothing stated if the target succeeds on the saving throw. Does this mean that the jutsu fails completely?

If the target succeeds the saving throw, nothing happens just like any other saving throw with similar wording (or lack of wording I suppose).--Ref3rence (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2023 (MDT)

Why is Lightning Style: Yata Wall so much chakra? I understand it reflects an entire jutsu but the cost makes it completely unplayable. Without feats to get more chakra and assuming you have a +5 to your Con it would leave you with practically no chakra. Im not sure in what scenario it is ever worth to cast it considering the enemy still is able to avoid the damage the reflected jutsu does. Sugar rush (talk) 19:51, 23 May 2023 (MDT)

   I agree with the above, I think that it's a very powerful jutsu for being found in a basic nature and it should be expensive as such but not to such and extent. Maybe a good buff is leaving the cost alone but adding a part that say something like " if Lightning Chakra mode is active, the jutsu cost goes down by 10"? Just my 2 cents. Mulan316 (talk) 22:40, 25 September 2023 (MDT)

In my opinion it's a nice hurdle to get over, there are many ways to reduce chakra so a character that takes their time into figuring the jutsu out should be able to do this, and this jutsu in particular has all justifications to be high cost, first, it reflects any damaging jutsu or spell, without any rolls or limitations from the user, it is simply an automatic reflect, second, it is a lightning style jutsu. Which are meant to be costly, take a look at the lightning style description. P@uL (talk) 15:04, 3 June 2024 (MDT)

When it comes to the Negative Raiju Art, in the bullet point that says "You may add your proficiency bonus an additional time to one saving throw of your choice per round.", is the additional time saying that it is only applicable to a saving throw that you are already proficient in or can you add the additional buff to any saving throw in general? Mulan316 (talk) 22:15, 25 September 2023 (MDT)

The purpose of using the word additional is to make it possible to add to a save you are already proficient with, but you can also use it on one you are not proficient with. P@uL (talk) 15:04, 3 June 2024 (MDT)

In lightning chakra mode, the second to last bullet point says that for 5 chakra you can take an additional action. can you do that multiple times a turn or is this only a once-per-turn ability? Sugar rush (talk) 22:46, 5 April 2024 (MDT)

Clarified on page P@uL (talk) 11:35, 6 April 2024 (MDT)