Talk:Goliath Dwarven Defender (3.5e Optimized Character Build)

Being a Dwarf

Wait, don't you have to be a dwarf to take levels in dwarven defender? --Gedren56 12:35, 27 February 2009 (MST)

Stoneblessed lets you be treated as a dwarf, or something like that. Races of Stone, check it out. --TK-Squared 14:29, 27 February 2009 (MST)

Goliaths are no SRD

Wrong section. --Angel Black 09:22, 11 May 2009 (MDT)

Adding Template:Wikify (with the reason of "Placed in the wrong section" or somesuch) should correct the problem, given time. --Green Dragon 09:40, 11 May 2009 (MDT)

"Oh no, it's a Dwarven Defender!"

"Let's... walk away briskly!"

A little more seriously though, how do you do zone control? What's to stop an enemy from just walking around you and moving on to the squishies? And with the big shield and one-handed weapon, you're not exactly going to be doing all that much damage. Couldn't enemies simply ignore you until they've cleaned up the far-more-annoying mage, only then turning back to you?

A few ways to gain some sort of zone control: Goad feat from CV, Stand Still feat from XPH (and the SRD) along with the Knight's Bulwark of Defense class feature or the Thicket of Blades stance out of Tome of Battle. If you're pretty big, Large and In Charge from Draconomicon can substitute for Stand Still. Ghostwheel 11:45, 9 July 2009 (MDT)

Con to AC

I think the Con to AC from Deepwarden might still be limited by the armor you wear due to being instead of Dex. :-\ --Ghostwheel 03:44, 14 July 2009 (MDT)

I've never heard of a max con mod to AC. --Ganre 18:25, 17 July 2009 (MDT)

With good reason... there isn't one. Hence instead of Dex. "...would loose this bonus to his Armor Class whenever he would normally be denied Dexterity to AC.