Talk:Fey'ri (5e Race)
Weeeeell, okay! I think, I'm done with this thing! I'm opened to question, advices and critique. Thanks for waiting) --Zaaravi (talk) 15:40, 24 July 2019 (MDT)
Okay - now its ready! Kinda. I hope. Though I do have a question - how to add Summary to this page? It seems like it vanished after moving...--Zaaravi (talk) 16:01, 24 July 2019 (MDT)
- There was a parameter you were missing in the 5e race template, I've added it and made some corrections. GJ. —ConcealedLight
(talk) 09:59, 25 July 2019 (MDT)
I'll save my itteration of the Winged trait here, because I like it. I've based it (kinda fully) on the Feyblood trait from Xanathars guide to everything else, because it didn't seem gamebreaking to me, and was a nice consencus between balance and fun. So...
Winged. You can double your jump distance as an action once per short rest. At 3rd level, you can use your wings to glide at a rate of 60 feet per round as if under the effects of a feather fall spell. At 6th level, once per long rest, you can fly as if under the effect of the fly spell for up to 10 minutes. You can't use this trait if you are disguised with Elven Mask, because your wings are melded into youк body.
- I will just leave it here. If it is considered to be too powerful for a player race - so be it)--Zaaravi (talk) 12:16, 25 July 2019 (MDT)
- Not sure what this "feyblood" thing is that you're referring to and there isn't any reference to that term in XGtE. As of the current revision, the subrace is stronger than the other subrace options because of its access to flying/ 3rd level spell. As for the trait you're suggesting it has a few issues over the current revision and doesn't address the comparative balance issue. Taking your suggestion into account I can suggest the following trait to make things a little more reasonable and in line with what I think you want out of the subrace:
- "You have a glide speed of 30 feet. When you reach 5th level, you gain a flying speed of 30 feet. You cannot use either speed if you are disguised with Elven Mask as this causes your wings to meld into your body."
—ConcealedLight (talk) 23:48, 25 July 2019 (MDT)
- Oh, that can work!
- I'm referring to "Xanathar's Guide to Everything Else" they've added a new race, called Feyblood in it. One of the subraces has the same trait, which I wrote from the start (except the double jump, that I added as a "you can't fly yet, but can jump good!"). --Zaaravi (talk) 10:16, 26 July 2019 (MDT)
- Ah, that isn't first-party content so it can't be compared to in terms of balance but you can put the trait into the page. —ConcealedLight (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2019 (MDT)
- Oh, didn't know that. I thought, that if XgtE is, that XgtEe is also ^^" My bad.
- Nah, let it remain as it is. If somebody will be willing to - they'll look through this discussion and decide for themselves, what version they like/want in their game) Thanks for the help! --Zaaravi (talk) 12:58, 29 July 2019 (MDT)
- Ah, that isn't first-party content so it can't be compared to in terms of balance but you can put the trait into the page. —ConcealedLight
- "You have a glide speed of 30 feet. When you reach 5th level, you gain a flying speed of 30 feet. You cannot use either speed if you are disguised with Elven Mask as this causes your wings to meld into your body."
Only a couple of things from me. Your phrasing "once at will" is counterintuitive, perhaps change it to "once per long rest without expending a spell slot" or something similar. Also, just a bit of lore: tieflings are neither a product of demons nor breeding with such creatures. They are the product of a stain on the lineage caused by a pact made between a mortal and a devil. While the statement seems trivial, demons and devils are not the same thing in D&D. Otherwise I love the idea of this race, I personally believe fiends aren't expanded upon enough in 5e. --47v3ctorlulz (talk) 04:00, 20 September 2019 (MDT)
- Hello! Well, you aren't completely right about tieflings - they were, well... a product of sexual intercourse between a human and a demon. That's why there are so many bloodlines of them. When Asmodeus rose to godhood, he used his cultists to form some sort of a pact, to make all tieflings his "children", so that he, as a god, had a race to himself. So, yeah - tieflings were a byproduct of a sexual intercourse with a demon (kinda what a kambion is/was), but now they are a race in themselves.
- And yeah - i know, that demons, devils, fiends and yugoloths are not the same thing from a lore perspective, yet they are from a biological? Kinda.
- I'm very happy, that you like this race! Though, they are, kinda, a reimagining of a 4e type of enemies. You should read about them! They ahve a pretty cool oficial story! --Zaaravi (talk) 10:13, 22 September 2019 (MDT)