Talk:Drunken Master, Tome (3.5e Prestige Class)

Rating

Power - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because this character has it's advantages, but he's no great warrior and he's no rogue, but he's not trying to replace those--216.87.207.1 04:31, 1 February 2009 (MST)

Wording - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it's easy to follow and understand and the grammar is very good too--216.87.207.1 04:31, 1 February 2009 (MST)

Formatting - 4.5/5 I give this class a 4.5 out of 5 because this probably shouldn't be put as a prestige class just cause it doesn't seem to fit the usual DnD format, but it does do well and doesn't break the flow --216.87.207.1 04:31, 1 February 2009 (MST)

Flavor - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it's funny that this is here cause that means someone really thought this through cause they wanted to be this --216.87.207.1 04:31, 1 February 2009 (MST)

Hey, thanks! I'll take all the kudos I can get. This PrC is based off of one from Complete Warrior. I decided to write a variant who got some more interesting stuff. To be honest, I'd rate this myself a bit lower--I need to fine-tune some of the abilities, but I appreciate the compliment. -- Genowhirl 14:15, 1 February 2009 (MST)

Thanks, GD

I've spent a while not dealing with wiki formatting, so I'm having to re-learn it. I do, however, want to tune up the the Tome classes that haven't had it yet. So, yeah, thank you for the time. --Genowhirl 13:13, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

Yeah, no problem. Speaking of the Frank and K material classes - what are your thoughts on adding on the fluff information we have present on D&D Wiki, or do you think it would never get filled out? --Green Dragon 13:22, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

You mean the stuff like "This class in the World" and sample NPCs? It'd be a lot of work even to come up with some sort of context for each class other than is given in the class itself; I myself don't use most campaign settings and indeed, don't know much about them, and instead just make up a setting as needed. And to cap it off, making a sample NPC and encounter is a lot of work. I've made a couple of efforts in that direction, but I don't think I should use full Tome material (like Races of War feats) because most people don't play using it, and it wouldn't be fair to pit a party not using the F&K stuff against someone who was.

That said, I don't mind doing it when I can think of it. I've done some setting information for the Dragoon, and made an NPC for this class. If you think the classes reall need it, I'll go around the classes and look at what suggests itself to me for NPC encounters and these classes in the world.--Genowhirl 13:46, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

Well, okay, I wrote down a list of every F&K class I could think of, and jotted notes about race and gender. I think...I could make up a small army of NPCs who were made using Tome Material. I can't promise it'll happen quickly, though.

As I said above, though, where should I draw the line for how much stuff I use? Assuming I use Tome scaling feats for more than prerequisites, I'll link extensively. I'm not asking you as an admin, I'm asking you as someone who's seen how DnD players react to new things, Tome material especially.--Genowhirl 15:45, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

As a player I would not use them; unless I started using the variant rules presented in the Frank and K sourcebooks. Maybe you could add Rithaniel's Frank and K material template to the top. --Green Dragon 16:24, 7 April 2009 (MDT)

I know you didn't ask me, but I strongly disagree with adding it. That "X in the world" crap (along with the other sections) was unnecessary filler created midway through 3.5 to do nothing but artificially boost the pagecount of books. Surgo 16:20, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

I agree with the "X in the world" stuff being filler, and I'd only add it when I had something worth putting up, but I'm interested in the idea of creating sample NPCs for the F&K Materials. --Genowhirl 17:42, 6 April 2009 (MDT)

Rating

Power - 1/5 I give this class a 1 out of 5 because the abilities duplicate the effects of a rage (lasting HOURS), and eventually exceed them, while the class also gives good BAB, two good saves, decent skills, and another extraordinary ability each level, amounting to a much overpowered class. --76.20.62.78 16:22, 31 July 2012 (MDT)

Wording - 2/5 I give this class a 2 out of 5 because many of the abilities are ill defined (such as the caster level of the cure effects), or completely undescribed (Where'd He Go Now not only gives no limitation on movement or even how it works [I suggest just likening it to dimension door or something], and gives a very vague, non-technical description of "paying attention to". --76.20.62.78 16:22, 31 July 2012 (MDT)

Formatting - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because you did this part right. --76.20.62.78 16:22, 31 July 2012 (MDT)

Flavor - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because, while very fleshed out, I really don't like giving abilities onomatopoeia names. --76.20.62.78 16:22, 31 July 2012 (MDT)