Talk:Death Knight (5e Class)

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'Remorseless Winter' feature[edit]

The Order of Ebony Blades subclass already has a 5th-level feature. Please refrain from adding yet another feature on top of that. If you'd like to argue in favor of the new feature along with the rest of the changes, feel free to do so in this space. Until such time as consensus is reached in favor of said feature, it will not be accepted. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 21:11, 29 January 2022 (MST)

Hello[edit]

Sorry didn’t mean to step on your toes, I wasn’t trying to “shadow buff” I just felt like an ability called “ Obliterate” should do just that. Especially if you have to waste a spell slot for it to buff it even more as well. And I’m gonna be honest the level 7 ability and I believe it’s 11 (Certainty of death and death awareness” are just waaay to underpowered and kinda boring to be honest. I added some other flavor death knight abilities obviously inspired from “WoW” I figured something would make the cut. I understand some things I added were over the top I do apologize about that. But I’d love maybe contribute into changing those 2 abilities mentioned above. I won’t edit anymore, I’m still learning how to use this website it took forever how to find a way to talk to you 💀 anyways let me know if we can if not I understand. Look forward to hearing from you. Texasredoutlaw (talk) 23:43, 25 April 2024 (MDT)Texasredoutlaw

The 11th-level feature is a solid passive buff, and the 7th-level feature plays into it. Seeing as both levels grant two features, I'd say they're allowed to be somewhat undertuned, as the extra feature compensates. Looking more closely at Obliterate, in theory I'm not opposed to bringing it onto an even keel with Paladin's Smite, but note that this class has massively increased burst damage via Necrostrike - combining the two allows one to deal a potential maximum of 11d8 additional damage, surpassing a max level rogue's sneak attack. By far, though, what convinced me to revert your edits the most was dropping the ability to activate multiple Profanities from a level 14 feature to level 4. That, in my opinion, was not justifiable.
Know that I do not wish to discourage you from participating in the wiki, merely to prevent a pretty good page from being decreased in quality by less thoroughly pondered and polished features, and in some cases downright broken changes. If you would still like to try your hand at further refining this page in the future, I encourage you to read through the Help section for a general primer of the do's and don'ts of the wiki, as well as the 5e Class Design Guide. That last one may appear intimidating, but I promise you, it's worth it.
I would, however, encourage you to start small with homebrew - spells have a fairly ironclad balance template to consult, magic weapons are good for expressing a certain theme or idea, feats can be excellent if you have a firm idea of what to go for and a decent understanding of mechanics, and once you've tackled some of those, you could give subclasses a shot. I personally have frequented this wiki for years now, and I still have yet to significantly contribute to a class - though I've racked up a not-insubstantial number of other pages, most of which I'd be proud to hold up as an example on how-to.
Again, I hope I haven't discouraged you from participating in the D&D Wiki - and if you have any thoughts or ideas for a page but are hesitant about editing it directly, you can always discuss it with any other contributors on the relevant Talk page, much like the one we're using right now. I hope I'll see you around. --Nuke The Earth (talk) 02:11, 26 April 2024 (MDT)
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