Talk:Channeler (3.5e Prestige Class)

Balance

I think you have skills a little confused... I used to have this problem until some person explained it to me, so I would like to keep that tradition and try to explain them to you. So, their is a max amount of skill points allowed per level in each skill as ranks. The "Max Class Skills" rank is the character level +3. So at first level the maximum knowledge ranks allowed would be 4. This increases to 5 at second, 6 at third, etc. I dont know if I made much sense, but this limitation makes the first ability not able to work and the entry level not working with the requirements. --Green Dragon 00:07, 11 January 2007 (MST)

I think I do understand it, though. I probably could have worded it better, though. The 20 ranks in knowledge skills means that he needs a total of 20 ranks devoted to any of the types of knowledge skills (arcana, local, nature, the planes, religion, and dungeoneering as the useful choices for this class). As I understand the skill, you can have 4 ranks in each of these seperately at first level.

This would be possible, as I understand it, at first level by a Cleric with the Knowledge Domain. He would need at least 16 Intelligence (or be a human with 14 Intelligence - in either case, he'd have to devote all his skill ranks to knowledge skills), and take Dual Energy Spell as his feat (using it as an example, as it has no requirements, but allows him to change an energy type for another). This would make the character much weaker until they were able to use the Channeler abilities, but a Cleric 1/Channeler 1 would be slightly stronger than a level 1, but weaker than level 2 characters. After gaining another Channeler level, he could turn Vermin or Undead.

As for the level references in Manipulate Turn/Rebuke, I mean for it to be the minimum class level. Passer 00:33, 11 January 2007 (MST)

Seeing that is the case I would recommend that you re-word it better. Sorry of the confusion. --Green Dragon 00:59, 12 January 2007 (MST)

Hey, no problem. If nothing was said, I wouldn't know it should be worded better. Passer 18:26, 12 January 2007 (MST)

Prerequisites

The skill prerequisite is meant to show the character's ability to understand how well things work (see my explanation of how to get a first level character to qualify for more information). This allows a character who knows a little bit to a fair amount in just about anything or is a (high-level) genius in one thing to take the class. It is also because a character without the Knowledge skills will not be able to use the abilities of this class.

As a note, a character who meets the skill prerequisite for the Loremaster class would also meet the Channeler's prerequisite. Passer 19:01, 12 January 2007 (MST)